Bullfight called Off

[Norcon]

Well I'd be very surprised if BT ever went out into his garden to kill a pigeon and then stand by whilst it is tortured.
So that puts you well down the scale by comparison in terms of "caring".

I think I must have been a Trappist Monk or something in a previous life. I will step to avoid an insect on a pavement if I see it.

I’ve got a big problem with pigeons swooping down on my garden and wolfing down all the grub I put out for the Blue Tiits, Sparrows, Dunnocks etc. One thing I know is Pigeons have superb eyesight. Even from inside my front room I only have to wave an arm and they fly off; leaving the smaller birds thinking “What’s the pigeon’s problem?”.

So no, I don’t buy that anyone has to throw a single thing to shoo a pigeon off.

Hec, from Bulls to pigeons. What next, Seahorses

I agree. Have a couple of pigeons in the garden also.
Never been a problem.

I suspect coathangers pigeon crapped over him and he just took spite against the creature.

 

[RogueHanger]

Definitely you, not him.

Any chance of a supporting argument?
Or just a silly simple assertion again, without any supporting evidence.

 

[RogueHanger]

But the implication would be that your vocation, your employer and your training would have .........

Typical of your statements. Unfounded, unsubstantiated fiction. Just cos you write a huge amount of turd, doesn't make it true. You're so desperate to win the unimportant petty arguments that you stir up, it is pitiful. Get help man. You achieve nothing posting here except generate hate from some and pity from others. The hours you spend typing pages of drivel are a waste of the internet. Get a life.

But what is your argument against my assertion.
All you've done is tried to abuse me. You haven't provided one shred of argument against my proposition.
So who needs the help for their aggression, and typing drivel, you or me?

Well I'd be very surprised if BT ever went out into his garden to kill a pigeon and then stand by whilst it is tortured.
So that puts you well down the scale by comparison in terms of "caring".

You make some daft assumptions. But what else is one to expect of an abusive bully.
Where did anyone suggest that anything has been tortured?

Yet you think it's normal and reasonable to use abusive language against people.
And you accuse me of torturing a bird.
Plonker.

 

[Norcon]

Right, thanks Cajar. See RH, it was easy and despite knowing this I don't think you have to insert a disclaimer and neither do I imagine for one minute your opinions are anything other than your own.

I don't need a disclaimer if I choose not to reveal who my employer is or my vocation. You, or cajar only discovered it by some serious and time-consuming searching. You lot must be obsessed with my private life.
By your previous reasoning, by stating who your rmployer is you can give more credence to your opinions.
I chose not to do so.
You did, and you then needed a disclaimer.

It's also dispelled my thoughts that you may be running an evening class somewhere in trolling.

I have done a fair bit of teaching, children and adults, and in some specialist subjects.

He'll say it wasn't him but his wife Norcon Can he be guilty by association?

I won't.
I choose not to disclose many things about me, as you do, but it has no significance or relevance, in my opinion.
My opinions and reasoning stands alone without any alignment, support, approval or qualification from any organistaion.
If you perceive that as somehow being less worthy opinion, I disagree.

You've just declared your self a land owner a few posts back.
How many acres do you own? Is it a secret?
Or is it as I suspect a "lie"?

 

[RogueHanger]

Can we assume, then, that in future,you will concentrate your opinions on the criticism of slaughter methods, and not exploit any and every opportunity to criticise Islam?:

No YOU may not assume that.

I/we are free to criticise any religion. It just happens that this one has set itself apart as quite a distasteful one in many respects.

Lack of concern for animal welfare is just the beginnng. You can add misogyny, homophobia, child brides, terrorism, violence, oppression for starters. For those always banging on about racism, ironically, they appear to be the most racist of all religions.

Funny how the things that I have put in my 'charge sheet' against this religion are the things that lefties like you are quick to condemn. However, you are craven in your lack of condemnation where this religion is concerned.

Funny old world isn't it.

So I was right. You were just using your apparent concern for animals as an exploitation for racial abuse.

I think that you are the most disingenuous person and you are again exploiting the actions and practices of fundamentalism to criticise main stream Islam.
Like I said, any excuse.

You never think to exploit the practices of other fundamentalists in other religions to critices those religions.
You are an overt racist, suffering from islamophobia..

 

[Norcon]

But the implication would be that your vocation, your employer and your training would have .........

Typical of your statements. Unfounded, unsubstantiated fiction. Just cos you write a huge amount of turd, doesn't make it true. You're so desperate to win the unimportant petty arguments that you stir up, it is pitiful. Get help man. You achieve nothing posting here except generate hate from some and pity from others. The hours you spend typing pages of drivel are a waste of the internet. Get a life.

But what is your argument against my assertion.
All you've done is tried to abuse me. You haven't provided one shred of argument against my proposition.
So who needs the help for their aggression, and typing drivel, you or me?

Well I'd be very surprised if BT ever went out into his garden to kill a pigeon and then stand by whilst it is tortured.
So that puts you well down the scale by comparison in terms of "caring".

You make some daft assumptions. But what else is one to expect of an abusive bully.
Where did anyone suggest that anything has been tortured?

Yet you think it's normal and reasonable to use abusive language against people.
And you accuse me of torturing a bird.
Plonker.

"She'd managed to hit it and stun it so brought it in the kitchen, live in a carrier bag. When she was ready to cook it, she dispatched it and I had the breasts for dinner."

Your words coathanger.
The bird was kept alive in a carrier bag after being bludgeoned with a brick thus you over seen its torture.
You're a sick puppy.

 

[RogueHanger]

But the implication would be that your vocation, your employer and your training would have .........

Typical of your statements. Unfounded, unsubstantiated fiction. Just cos you write a huge amount of turd, doesn't make it true. You're so desperate to win the unimportant petty arguments that you stir up, it is pitiful. Get help man. You achieve nothing posting here except generate hate from some and pity from others. The hours you spend typing pages of drivel are a waste of the internet. Get a life.

But what is your argument against my assertion.
All you've done is tried to abuse me. You haven't provided one shred of argument against my proposition.
So who needs the help for their aggression, and typing drivel, you or me?

You. Clearly. It's in text, in front of us all. Read back what you have written slowly. FWIW I'm one of the one's that pities you.

Still no argument against my assertion?
Just pointless nonsense.

 

[RogueHanger]

If you weren't so evasive, emeritus Jim, then Norcon wouldn't have had to post the same question again and again. I've been there with you too, so know how it feels. All you do is perpetuate the thread with your evasiveness - and over something as simple as what did you do for a living?

It has no importance or relevance.
Just as I explained to cajar, I choose not to disclose lots of thing about me, just like most other posters, but I don't continually harrass them to disclose something that has no relevance.
If I did I would consider my self a bit of a pervert.

I'm beginning to think that I am surrounded by some who are obsessed with minor and irrelevant details, in the hope of gleaning some advantage from it.
Well, do you feel more advantaged now?

 

[RogueHanger]

But, your assertion that I am ashamed of something because I chose not to reveal it is fallacious, because I did reveal it.

Not under your latest username, on which you have been nastier and more insulting and taken a more patronizing tone, than on the username which you revealed matter of factly your occupation a few years ago.

Yeah, the one under which I was banned for criticising abusive posters and posts.

Seems like you couldn't bring yourself to admit that you were a local authority desk walla because you knew the derision you would suffer, trying to tell self employed builders about equality policy when you have been cushioned from the realities of any sort of business harshness in your bubble. Council staff such as 'diversity officers' and 'housing officers' should not be lumped in with people who are due respect such as teachers etc, so dont try to hide your weasely body behind them.

You've made an amazing assumption about not only who i worked for, but also my job description. But yet again it's typical of your biased assumptions.

By the looks of the last few pages, it's your fallacious assertions everyone's coming to get tired of.

Yet you are still making sweeping and fallacious assumptions in an attempt to discredit me. Why would that be?
Oh yes of course, to try to credit your own abusive behaviour.

 

[Big Tone]

If you perceive that as somehow being less worthy opinion, I disagree.

I value anyone and everyone’s opinion if it’s pull well, regardless and irrespective of their profession. But I think I’ve finally realised what ‘that thing’ is which gets up my nose more than anything else - your evasiveness! What you don’t say, or refuse to admit, tells far much more than what you do say. Your focus is on what you have said and think “I’ve won that one – he he”. , without realising you have not answered a direct question directly! That does not garner respect in anyone’s book Jim!

I choose not to disclose many things about me, as you do, but it has no significance or relevance, in my opinion. My opinions and reasoning stands alone without any alignment, support, approval or qualification from any organistaion.

I see the French way of life affecting your words there Jim

If, as you have just very clearly stated, disclosing one’s vocation “has no significance or relevance” then de-facto it doesn’t matter if it is included or not?

More evasiveness and dodging to follow. Place your bets guys....

 

[Norcon]

If you weren't so evasive, emeritus Jim, then Norcon wouldn't have had to post the same question again and again. I've been there with you too, so know how it feels. All you do is perpetuate the thread with your evasiveness - and over something as simple as what did you do for a living?

It has no importance or relevance.
Just as I explained to cajar, I choose not to disclose lots of thing about me, just like most other posters, but I don't continually harrass them to disclose something that has no relevance.
If I did I would consider my self a bit of a pervert.

I'm beginning to think that I am surrounded by some who are obsessed with minor and irrelevant details, in the hope of gleaning some advantage from it.
Well, do you feel more advantaged now?

It has importance and relevance.
It means you were never an employer nor self employed and never subjected to the trials and tribulations that entails.
Your just an office boy cossetted from the real world living off a big fat pension who thinks all and sundry should comply with your crappy ideals.

How many acres of land do you own? Is it a secret?
Is it about half an acre and your ashamed to admit that?

 

[RogueHanger]

Curiously, him and his wife also like to throw bricks at pigeons and eat them later.

http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1453772#1453772[/QUOTE]
Typical misrepresentation of the facts again.
Where did I state or imply that we like to throw bricks at pigeons?
With all of your searching you suely can find one time that I've implied that.

I'll tell you, nowhere have I stated or implied that we like to throw bricks at pigeons, but as any gardne/farmer knows it's necxessary to scare birds away from the produce.
Now on this one occasion, a lucky throw hit the bird.
Would it have been less cruel to allow the bird to crawl away and die a slow lingering death, or to dispatch it?

Well there are plenty ways to scare birds without lobbing house bricks at them.

What do you do? Shout, "Booo!"

Oh yes, of course, you're too busy being abusive on social media to venture into the garden.

And you said your brute of a missus left it alive in a carrier bag till dinner time. If that's not a lingering death what is.

Not content with being abusive to anonymous groups of people, you've descended into being abusive about my family now.
Your credibility has just flown away.

If the bird had been taken to a vet, how do you think it would have been transported? In a cardboard box, or a carrier bag perhaps?
Or do you think it was less cruel to dispatch it?
How do you think animals are transported to slaughter, on feather beds, perhaps?
You clearly are an idiot.

 

[RogueHanger]

It was easy to see he had never been self employed nor been an employer.
No "real world" experience and cushioned from the realities of trading in the real world.

Funny you should say that, notconcsious. The last half dozen or so job titles had "manager" in them somewhere. That usually means being responsible for hiring and firing, amongst other things.

I certainly have been self-employed for part of my working life, employing up to four other staff.
I am self-employed now.
Not in my main specialist role anymore.
Although I am still occasionally self employed in one of my specialist roles.

 

[Big Tone]

Well there are plenty ways to scare birds without lobbing house bricks at them.

What do you do? Shout, "Booo!"

You idiot - and bullsh.itter!!!

I’ve got a big problem with pigeons swooping down on my garden and wolfing down all the grub I put out for the Blue Tiits, Sparrows, Dunnocks etc. One thing I know is Pigeons have superb eyesight. Even from inside my front room I only have to wave an arm and they fly off; leaving the smaller birds thinking “What’s the pigeon’s problem?”.

So no, I don’t buy that anyone has to throw a single thing to shoo a pigeon off.

Sorry Mods/Admin. Really getting on my last nerve

 

[RogueHanger]

Well now we know he is a law breaker. And a callous one at that!
And a hypocrite.


The Law:
Under Section 1 of the Wildlife and Countryside Act it is an offence for any person to kill, injure or take any wild bird.

To actually have brought the pigeon into the house alive but suffering and then kept it that way until its demise was also a serious offence.

Those are UK laws that you're quoting, Notconcsious.
Here in France it's perfectly legal and normal to hunt for wild birds.
We've had a few from the neighbour when he's had a good day.
We also kill our own chickens occasionally, without stunning them.
I also allow him to shoot at the pigeons on our land, 'cos they're a nuisance.

Is it legal to clout them with bricks then leave them gasping for air in a carrier bag in the kitchen for half the day?

Yet more sweeping fallacious assumptions. You're becoming quite the specialist at it.