Bullfight called Off

[Norcon]

But the implication would be that your vocation, your employer and your training would have .........

Typical of your statements. Unfounded, unsubstantiated fiction. Just cos you write a huge amount of turd, doesn't make it true. You're so desperate to win the unimportant petty arguments that you stir up, it is pitiful. Get help man. You achieve nothing posting here except generate hate from some and pity from others. The hours you spend typing pages of drivel are a waste of the internet. Get a life.

But what is your argument against my assertion.
All you've done is tried to abuse me. You haven't provided one shred of argument against my proposition.
So who needs the help for their aggression, and typing drivel, you or me?

Well I'd be very surprised if BT ever went out into his garden to kill a pigeon and then stand by whilst it is tortured.
So that puts you well down the scale by comparison in terms of "caring".

 

[Whitespirit66]

Can we assume, then, that in future,you will concentrate your opinions on the criticism of slaughter methods, and not exploit any and every opportunity to criticise Islam?:

No YOU may not assume that.

I/we are free to criticise any religion. It just happens that this one has set itself apart as quite a distasteful one in many respects.

Lack of concern for animal welfare is just the beginnng. You can add misogyny, homophobia, child brides, terrorism, violence, oppression for starters. For those always banging on about racism, ironically, they appear to be the most racist of all religions.

Funny how the things that I have put in my 'charge sheet' against this religion are the things that lefties like you are quick to condemn. However, you are craven in your lack of condemnation where this religion is concerned.

Funny old world isn't it.

 

[Deleted member 63160]

But the implication would be that your vocation, your employer and your training would have .........

Typical of your statements. Unfounded, unsubstantiated fiction. Just cos you write a huge amount of turd, doesn't make it true. You're so desperate to win the unimportant petty arguments that you stir up, it is pitiful. Get help man. You achieve nothing posting here except generate hate from some and pity from others. The hours you spend typing pages of drivel are a waste of the internet. Get a life.

But what is your argument against my assertion.
All you've done is tried to abuse me. You haven't provided one shred of argument against my proposition.
So who needs the help for their aggression, and typing drivel, you or me?

You. Clearly. It's in text, in front of us all. Read back what you have written slowly. FWIW I'm one of the one's that pities you.

 

[RogueHanger]

Roguehanger is a retired council office worker, clearly ashamed of this as he refused to reveal it several times. However, as he has revealed it on this forum, we can presume he considers it relevant to his opinions (his words).

It certainly puts his posts into context - you would never see a businessman or self employed person with those kinds of impractical views, but how often do we see council staff moving asylum seekers to more expensive areas 'to be closer to friends' and other hyper sensitive reactions to diversity?

Posted on his previously banned username, Redherring. http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1429490#1429490[/QUOTE]
Well done, cajar. I wonder how long you've been digging for that snippet.
I do think you've become a little obsessed.

But, your assertion that I am ashamed of something because I chose not to reveal it is fallacious, because I did reveal it.
I'll say it again, my vocation or my employer has no relevance to my views. Additionally I won't use my vocation or my employer to imply any credence to my views.
I choose not to reveal my ethnicity because I consider it has no relevance. By your conclusion it follows that I am ashamed of my ethnicity.
I choose not to reveal my name, does it follow that I am ashamed of my name?
Try another conclusion because yours is so obviously biased to your view.
You don't reveal lots of things about yourself, similarly loads of others do not reveal their identity. It doesn't follow that anyone is ashamed of anything.
Typically, you choose the conclusion that suits your prejudice and your agenda.

Your further assertion that LA employees are somehow unworthy of respect suggest that you have no respect for lots of other people, posters, and contibutors e.g teachers, planners, BR Inspectors, etc. So your suggestion is fallacious again. But by now we're getting used to your fallacious assertions.

 

[Big Tone]

If you weren't so evasive, emeritus Jim, then Norcon wouldn't have had to post the same question again and again. I've been there with you too, so know how it feels. All you do is perpetuate the thread with your evasiveness - and over something as simple as what did you do for a living?

 

[RogueHanger]

Curiously, him and his wife also like to throw bricks at pigeons and eat them later.

http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1453772#1453772[/QUOTE]
Typical misrepresentation of the facts again.
Where did I state or imply that we like to throw bricks at pigeons?
With all of your searching you suely can find one time that I've implied that.

I'll tell you, nowhere have I stated or implied that we like to throw bricks at pigeons, but as any gardne/farmer knows it's necxessary to scare birds away from the produce.
Now on this one occasion, a lucky throw hit the bird.
Would it have been less cruel to allow the bird to crawl away and die a slow lingering death, or to dispatch it?

 

[cajar]

But, your assertion that I am ashamed of something because I chose not to reveal it is fallacious, because I did reveal it.

Not under your latest username, on which you have been nastier and more insulting and taken a more patronizing tone, than on the username which you revealed matter of factly your occupation a few years ago. Seems like you couldn't bring yourself to admit that you were a local authority desk walla because you knew the derision you would suffer, trying to tell self employed builders about equality policy when you have been cushioned from the realities of any sort of business harshness in your bubble. Council staff such as 'diversity officers' and 'housing officers' should not be lumped in with people who are due respect such as teachers etc, so dont try to hide your weasely body behind them.

By the looks of the last few pages, it's your fallacious assertions everyone's coming to get tired of.

 

[RogueHanger]

Well now we know he is a law breaker. And a callous one at that!
And a hypocrite.


The Law:
Under Section 1 of the Wildlife and Countryside Act it is an offence for any person to kill, injure or take any wild bird.

To actually have brought the pigeon into the house alive but suffering and then kept it that way until its demise was also a serious offence.

Those are UK laws that you're quoting, Notconcsious.
Here in France it's perfectly legal and normal to hunt for wild birds.
We've had a few from the neighbour when he's had a good day.
We also kill our own chickens occasionally, without stunning them.
I also allow him to shoot at the pigeons on our land, 'cos they're a nuisance.

 

[cajar]

Curiously, him and his wife also like to throw bricks at pigeons and eat them later.

http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1453772#1453772[/QUOTE]
Typical misrepresentation of the facts again.
Where did I state or imply that we like to throw bricks at pigeons?
With all of your searching you suely can find one time that I've implied that.

I'll tell you, nowhere have I stated or implied that we like to throw bricks at pigeons, but as any gardne/farmer knows it's necxessary to scare birds away from the produce.
Now on this one occasion, a lucky throw hit the bird.
Would it have been less cruel to allow the bird to crawl away and die a slow lingering death, or to dispatch it?

Well there are plenty ways to scare birds without lobbing house bricks at them. And you said your brute of a missus left it alive in a carrier bag till dinner time. If that's not a lingering death what is.

 

[Norcon]

It was easy to see he had never been self employed nor been an employer.
No "real world" experience and cushioned from the realities of trading in the real world.

 

[cajar]

Well now we know he is a law breaker. And a callous one at that!
And a hypocrite.


The Law:
Under Section 1 of the Wildlife and Countryside Act it is an offence for any person to kill, injure or take any wild bird.

To actually have brought the pigeon into the house alive but suffering and then kept it that way until its demise was also a serious offence.

Those are UK laws that you're quoting, Notconcsious.
Here in France it's perfectly legal and normal to hunt for wild birds.
We've had a few from the neighbour when he's had a good day.
We also kill our own chickens occasionally, without stunning them.
I also allow him to shoot at the pigeons on our land, 'cos they're a nuisance.

Is it legal to clout them with bricks then leave them gasping for air in a carrier bag in the kitchen for half the day?

 

[Norcon]

Well now we know he is a law breaker. And a callous one at that!
And a hypocrite.


The Law:
Under Section 1 of the Wildlife and Countryside Act it is an offence for any person to kill, injure or take any wild bird.

To actually have brought the pigeon into the house alive but suffering and then kept it that way until its demise was also a serious offence.

Those are UK laws that you're quoting, Notconcsious.
Here in France it's perfectly legal and normal to hunt for wild birds.
We've had a few from the neighbour when he's had a good day.
We also kill our own chickens occasionally, without stunning them.
I also allow him to shoot at the pigeons on our land, 'cos they're a nuisance.

So you're a landowner now?
How many acres do you own? Or would you rather count it in hectares?

I guess 10 pages later we might have the answer to this.

How did you find the transition between being the "office walla" and being a land owner?

 

[Big Tone]

Well I'd be very surprised if BT ever went out into his garden to kill a pigeon and then stand by whilst it is tortured.
So that puts you well down the scale by comparison in terms of "caring".

I think I must have been a Trappist Monk or something in a previous life. I will step to avoid an insect on a pavement if I see it.

I’ve got a big problem with pigeons swooping down on my garden and wolfing down all the grub I put out for the Blue Tiits, Sparrows, Dunnocks etc. One thing I know is Pigeons have superb eyesight. Even from inside my front room I only have to wave an arm and they fly off; leaving the smaller birds thinking “What’s the pigeon’s problem?”.

So no, I don’t buy that anyone has to throw a single thing to shoo a pigeon off.

Hec, from Bulls to pigeons. What next, Seahorses

 

[Deleted member 63160]

I would guess he lives alone, on benefits somewhere in the UK. This is not the only forum he frequents. He "trolls" on several but not to be nasty. He can't really help himself. He is lonely and a little "unique".

 

[RogueHanger]

Right, thanks Cajar. See RH, it was easy and despite knowing this I don't think you have to insert a disclaimer and neither do I imagine for one minute your opinions are anything other than your own.

I don't need a disclaimer if I choose not to reveal who my employer is or my vocation. You, or cajar only discovered it by some serious and time-consuming searching. You lot must be obsessed with my private life.
By your previous reasoning, by stating who your rmployer is you can give more credence to your opinions.
I chose not to do so.
You did, and you then needed a disclaimer.

It's also dispelled my thoughts that you may be running an evening class somewhere in trolling.

I have done a fair bit of teaching, children and adults, and in some specialist subjects.

He'll say it wasn't him but his wife Norcon Can he be guilty by association?

I won't.
I choose not to disclose many things about me, as you do, but it has no significance or relevance, in my opinion.
My opinions and reasoning stands alone without any alignment, support, approval or qualification from any organistaion.
If you perceive that as somehow being less worthy opinion, I disagree.