Ca'moron said...

[JBR]

Isn't it 55 million a day to stay in?
That would build a lot of houses, enable a lot of the elderly to be able to switch on the heating in the winter!!

But hey, let's just give it to some unelected bureaucrats, who enjoy telling us what we can and can't do in our own country.
I'm voting OUT

Exactly my feelings. We pay them £55 million per day and all we seem to get for it is diktats telling us what to do.
I'd love to know what else we get for such an enormous outlay.

To me, it's a no-brainer. I, too, will be voting to leave.
What I can't understand is why (apparently) so many people want us to stay in. Can they see something I can't?

 

[JohnD]

did you make up that number yourself, or did you hear it somewhere?

 

[PBC_1966]

Sadly, I fear that anything involving a referendum by any of the "Big Three" British parties will just be a smoke & mirrors trick to try and fool people into believing that they actually care what the population thinks, since all three have been fully committed for years not only to remaining within the EU but to that supposed European ideal of "ever closer integration."

Britain desperately needs to get out of the EU and regain full control before it's too late. The EU is already rapidly moving down the path of the old Soviet Union, and ultimately, the end will be the same - Perhaps not within our lifetimes, but eventually. Living half way around the world now, there might be a few things about England that I miss. Feeling that almost everything in my life was subject to EU regulations down to the minutest detail is definitely not one of them.

 

[JBR]

I'd still like to hear what the advantages are of our remaining a member of the EU. Perhaps one of our europhiles could enlighten me.

 

[handyjack]

did you make up that number yourself, or did you hear it somewhere?

It’s reasonable to describe £55 million a day as our “membership fee.

 

[JohnD]

what made you choose that number? Or did you just make it up?

 

[handyjack]

what made you choose that number? Or did you just make it up?

I did not choose that number I think fender did. My comment was that it was reasonable figure to quote. Not that you have the capacity to understand reasonable.

 

[ajrtd]

did you make up that number yourself, or did you hear it somewhere?

Nigel gave us that figure. How much would you say it costs us a day.

 

[JBR]

I decided to research this matter (it was quite quick and easy, actually) and am obliged to admit that I was completely wrong. Please read this, which explains the matter fully:

https://fullfact.org/economy/cost_eu_membership_gross_net_contribution-30887

Consequently, I am pleased to admit that our nett contributions to the EU are actually ONLY £33 million per day.

I'd still like to know whether it is good value for money, though. What do we get for that?

 

[PBC_1966]

I'd still like to know whether it is good value for money, though. What do we get for that?

Let's see......

Being dictated to about working hours and pay, being dictated to about how the U.K. must dispose of its garbage and keep its countryside clean, being dictated to about fishing and agriculture, having to deal with the ridiculously convoluted and bureaucratic system that is VAT, being told how to run the country's railways, being told how to run the country's telephone system, being dictated to about how Britain may trade with the rest of the world outside of the EU, being told what devices must be fitted to new cars, living with the risk of being arrested for some alleged offense in another EU country one has never even visited and being hauled off to face trial there without a British judge even looking at the case first - Shall we go on?

Yep, sure sounds like a great deal!

 

[Whitespirit66]

Cameron must be the worst negotiator for Britain

Yes, he's going to go into negotiations with everyone around the table knowing that he's pro Europe. Great tactic, Dave.

 

[joe-90]

I'd still like to know whether it is good value for money, though. What do we get for that?

Let's see......

Being dictated to about working hours and pay, being dictated to about how the U.K. must dispose of its garbage and keep its countryside clean, being dictated to about fishing and agriculture, having to deal with the ridiculously convoluted and bureaucratic system that is VAT, being told how to run the country's railways, being told how to run the country's telephone system, being dictated to about how Britain may trade with the rest of the world outside of the EU, being told what devices must be fitted to new cars, living with the risk of being arrested for some alleged offense in another EU country one has never even visited and being hauled off to face trial there without a British judge even looking at the case first - Shall we go on?

Yep, sure sounds like a great deal!

So why does Scotland have a totally different set of rules/laws to us then?

 

[PBC_1966]

So why does Scotland have a totally different set of rules/laws to us then?

Only because they relate to things which in European-bureaucrat speak are not yet "an EU competence" (i.e. things for which full power has not yet been transferred to the EU).

 

[handyjack]

I decided to research this matter (it was quite quick and easy, actually) and am obliged to admit that I was completely wrong. Please read this, which explains the matter fully:

https://fullfact.org/economy/cost_eu_membership_gross_net_contribution-30887

Consequently, I am pleased to admit that our nett contributions to the EU are actually ONLY £33 million per day.

I'd still like to know whether it is good value for money, though. What do we get for that?

But we still give them £55 million.

 

[fender]

did you make up that number yourself, or did you hear it somewhere?

As stated, it came from Nigel I believe. However, I did have a question mark next to it which inferred I was not 100% sure and stand to be corrected.
Anyway, as above, I'd love to know what we actually get for it? - Oh, it was explained already - and I agree.
We could make a huge shed load of use out of £33 million per day, don't you agree?