Boilers,Boilers,Boilers!!!
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I disagree Dickie, I thought most on here would never dream of DIYing gas!
They always have an engineer coming in a day or two.
All they want to know is what is wrong with it so that they can tell the engineer the fault, how much it will cost to repair including the eBay link to the part so they don't get ripped off by paying more than £10 an hour and, heaven forbid, a mark up on goods.
I mean come on lads, £70 to £90 an hour!? You're on more than doctors! Anyone would think you had a business to run or something.
Jon
They always have an engineer coming in a day or two.
All they want to know is what is wrong with it so that they can tell the engineer the fault, how much it will cost to repair including the eBay link to the part so they don't get ripped off by paying more than £10 an hour and, heaven forbid, a mark up on goods.
I mean come on lads, £70 to £90 an hour!? You're on more than doctors! Anyone would think you had a business to run or something.
Jon
The DaftyDIYers have the casing off the boiler & tablet beside them as they upload the post on here!!!
Most are Handyman/Gardener types with very little skill or intelligence.
With the OAP discount I charge as little as £90/HR for boiler & gas work.
The Mod should ban anyone that asks a boiler related question.
Most are Handyman/Gardener types with very little skill or intelligence.
With the OAP discount I charge as little as £90/HR for boiler & gas work.
The Mod should ban anyone that asks a boiler related question.
Some people like to know.
I like knowing about my headache dosnt mean I am going to drill my head.
You gas boys think you are something special, you don't have to respond to a post, if you choose to, you know what you are allowed to say.
Some people ask about boilers, but the mean thermostat, that's because they may be
handyman/gardeners or even a brain surgeon.
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We don't think we are something special. There is a rule on the forum to not give out advice that could jeopardise the safety of the person asking.
Some RGIs adhere to this some don't and some give out completely dangerous advice.
Some RGIs adhere to this some don't and some give out completely dangerous advice.
@Diyisfun
I'm glad that you agree with us and understand the whole concept. Youre right and if I had major headaches I would want to know about them too.
First thing I would do would be to seek the advice of someone qualified like a doctor who is a paid professional in that field.
They could then offer a diagnosis and options of where we proceed.
Should it require medication I would pay for them to cure the problem. If further work was required such as an operation like say drilling my head then I would again seek a professionals advice and have a skilled surgeon carry this out for me again another paid professional.
Hopefully I have then been cured and all without me having to risk my own life but just pay for professional advice and service.
What I wouldn't do is have a go myself to save a few quid just to see if I could do it. Or maybe my neighbour has headaches so I'll pop round and have a go at drilling their head too I mean how hard can it be?
Now if only you could liken the above scenario with possibly some sort of domestic situation, maybe a boiler fault?
If someone asks about boilers and they really mean a thermostat then won't you agree that that person really isn't competent to be carrying out these kind of repairs!?
I don't think any of us feel special but the majority of us do take our job and the safety of our customers very seriously and those that trivialise it or attempt to carry out works for themselves or others that could possibly cause harm.
I don't know about others on here but I could wager there will be a lot of the good engineers will spend as much time as me training and researching every year. I would hazard a guess that if we added up all the time I would probably spend a good month of my year just on that.
Jon
I'm glad that you agree with us and understand the whole concept. Youre right and if I had major headaches I would want to know about them too.
First thing I would do would be to seek the advice of someone qualified like a doctor who is a paid professional in that field.
They could then offer a diagnosis and options of where we proceed.
Should it require medication I would pay for them to cure the problem. If further work was required such as an operation like say drilling my head then I would again seek a professionals advice and have a skilled surgeon carry this out for me again another paid professional.
Hopefully I have then been cured and all without me having to risk my own life but just pay for professional advice and service.
What I wouldn't do is have a go myself to save a few quid just to see if I could do it. Or maybe my neighbour has headaches so I'll pop round and have a go at drilling their head too I mean how hard can it be?
Now if only you could liken the above scenario with possibly some sort of domestic situation, maybe a boiler fault?
If someone asks about boilers and they really mean a thermostat then won't you agree that that person really isn't competent to be carrying out these kind of repairs!?
I don't think any of us feel special but the majority of us do take our job and the safety of our customers very seriously and those that trivialise it or attempt to carry out works for themselves or others that could possibly cause harm.
I don't know about others on here but I could wager there will be a lot of the good engineers will spend as much time as me training and researching every year. I would hazard a guess that if we added up all the time I would probably spend a good month of my year just on that.
Jon
You'll have more than a slight headache with co if you don't stop farting around with your gas boiler!!
A little knowledge is very dangerous, so the Mods should just delete all boiler questions. Also, it's mostly people chancing their arm at boiler repairs that are asking all these boiler questions!!! SOMEONE WILL BE KILLED!!
At this point there's 12 threads on boilers on this forum!! Why don't the Mods nip it in the bud???!!!
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I would say that it's 12 on the first page alone!
I've been thinking along your lines for a while dickie, the section is plumbing and central heating. This should be only for any plumbing issues due to DHW, mcw drainage, sanitary ware etc etc.
Central heating should be down to the system and controls downstream of the boiler. There needs to be a line drawn and the easiest way to do this would be to provide no advice to anything boiler related but pipework (wet) rads, trv's, controls (up to an electrical safety issue) cylinders, advice on sizing etc etc.
People seem to assume that we work for the site and we have to answer their questions. If every professional pulled off here where would it end up? This isn't just this section it's across most. I think the next most dangerous one is the sparks. I hope they do what we do and/or follow suit.
Im working away right now so I'm going to put the strip clubs off for an hour and see if I can come up with some surprising statistics.
Jon
I would say that it's 12 on the first page alone!
I've been thinking along your lines for a while dickie, the section is plumbing and central heating. This should be only for any plumbing issues due to DHW, mcw drainage, sanitary ware etc etc.
Central heating should be down to the system and controls downstream of the boiler. There needs to be a line drawn and the easiest way to do this would be to provide no advice to anything boiler related but pipework (wet) rads, trv's, controls (up to an electrical safety issue) cylinders, advice on sizing etc etc.
People seem to assume that we work for the site and we have to answer their questions. If every professional pulled off here where would it end up? This isn't just this section it's across most. I think the next most dangerous one is the sparks. I hope they do what we do and/or follow suit.
Im working away right now so I'm going to put the strip clubs off for an hour and see if I can come up with some surprising statistics.
Jon
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I think I mentioned on another thread about refusing to answer questions.
Would stop some footfall to site and then advertising revenue which would hit site owners in pocket though.
It's up to them to police it properly.
If they don't (which they seem to be doing) then we need to decide how we as a collective proceed.
Would stop some footfall to site and then advertising revenue which would hit site owners in pocket though.
It's up to them to police it properly.
If they don't (which they seem to be doing) then we need to decide how we as a collective proceed.
To be fair they dont need to 'police' it, its a site preference / rule, there is absolutely no dictate that safe gas work procedures are only the preserve of a chosen few.
I treat them like a card machine now dickie. Swipe, wipe and walk away
Think you need to read the GSIUR then.
Have a lot of time for you @ollski but you seem to be giving very bad advice of late.
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If the non registered feel the need to carry out repairs then crack on with it , they only have themselves to blame if it all goes tits up and someone gets killed....
Replaced gas valve on a Vaillant Ecotec , out the box CO was around 65,000 PPM with CO2 in excess of 11%....
If the DIYer possess the knowledge and equipment in order to correctly set combustion then as said crack on.
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