Imagine the scene - 27 EU manufacturer reps sitting round a table discussing whether their new electrical gizzmo should have a 2 or 3 pin plug. The negotiations will probably take months/years to placate all 27 states. The paperwork will be in 27 languages at enormous cost. In the mean time, UK manufacturers will be doing deals with the rest of the world.
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Imagine the scene - 27 EU manufacturer reps sitting round a table discussing whether their new electrical gizzmo should have a 2 or 3 pin plug. The negotiations will probably take months/years to placate all 27 states. The paperwork will be in 27 languages at enormous cost. In the mean time, UK manufacturers will be doing deals with the rest of the world.
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I haven't commented on plugs. We already know that there are a variety of plugs in use around the world so it is an irrelevance.
Do you think Mr Dyson has a view on the regulations limiting the electrical power used by vacuum cleaners? Do you think his views are the same as the views of Bosch, Electrolux and Miele? Do you think he would be disappointed if the UK was not represented at the framing of the next set of regulations?
Do you think the London Stock Exchange, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and the Bank of England would prefer to have a say in the framing of Financial regulations? Or would they be happy to sit outside the door of the conference room and have the regulations handed to them?
Do you think Mr Dyson has a view on the regulations limiting the electrical power used by vacuum cleaners? Do you think his views are the same as the views of Bosch, Electrolux and Miele? Do you think he would be disappointed if the UK was not represented at the framing of the next set of regulations?
Do you think the London Stock Exchange, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and the Bank of England would prefer to have a say in the framing of Financial regulations? Or would they be happy to sit outside the door of the conference room and have the regulations handed to them?
Just the same as goods exported to other countries often have to meet the regulations of that country in which the U.K. had no part in making. British cars for export to the U.S. need to meet federal emissions and safety standards, for example (and in some cases state standards as well).
But British goods made for sale and use in the U.K. don't have to meet U.S. regulations. At the moment the EU dictates that British-made goods sold and used wholly within the U.K. still have to meet EU regulations. Yes, outside of the EU British goods would still need to meet the appropriate standards for sale into the EU, but manufacturers would be free from those restrictions for goods sold domestically.
There have been several proposals for a "universal" European mains plug and socket over the last 40 years or so, none of which has ever gotten much beyond preliminary design stages. The German Schuko plug and compatible 2-pin "Euro" plugs have become the most common, but several other countries (the U.K. included) are so attached to their own types that any "harmonization" seems unlikely in the near future.
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No. Bad example. I don't care what he thinks.
Do the people in Malaysia who now make his vacuum cleaners?
Henry, made in Britain, is already lower than the limit.
It's great to know that the anti-EU campaigners don't want to see the UK participating in framing the regulations we would have to obey.
I see they are avoiding this.
I see they are avoiding this.
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I think that Dyson has said that if we Leave the EU then there is a good chance that he will return some production back to the UK. Jobs that we need.
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How has our participating in the framing of these regulations benefited the UK in the past? what difference doe it make? We sell to the EU, then we meet their regulations, we sell to the US we meet their regulations....China does it all the time, I have a Chinese appliance that has a UK three pin plug on it, the same appliance sold in the US has a US plug and is designed for 120v...Wow, how do they do it? Naturally EU made products will have to comply with British Standards
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Was it not the burden of EU regulaions that caused him to move production? Not the cost of labour. How about our steelworks closing down because the Indian owners were paid by the EU to take their dirty Carbon Dioxide producing industry outside of the sweet smelling EU or Ford being given an EU grant to build the Transit in Turkey.... All good, well paid jobs slashed by the EU
I see Corgi Jones avoided this one. I know he's made up false claims before, perhaps this is another fiction.
Another question avoided by the anti-EU campaigners.
Presumably because the answer is so clear and obvious, but they don't want to say it.
Presumably because the answer is so clear and obvious, but they don't want to say it.
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Whichever answer we gave you would be passed of by you as lies and fantasy, so there is little point in discussing this in depth..Or even at all. You have made up your mind and will not move and it is pretty unlikely that you will convince anyone here to change their position.
Viva Brexit.
Surely Davey can say what he thinks? Why should his thoughts all be lies and fantasy?
I raised the matter of the 2/3 pin plug purely as an analogy to argue the case.
Our manufacturers don't need to sit at the same table to frame regulations. Our manufacturers will manufacture to meet the needs of the customer, whether they be EU, US or China based. We already have to obey worldwide standards when we sell to them so I cannot understand your position.
I'm not avoiding the Financial regulations issue - The City of London will manage just fine outside of the EU and will happily invest in my 2/3 pinned electric gizzmo for world export
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