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Just how anal can you get Himmy, you keep insisting on sources and examples, as though things aren't valid without them. What were you in a previous life, a tax or a health and safety inspector. I'm relating things I've read, and that should be sufficient. This is supposed to be a general discussion, not a point scoring game.
 
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The french and Germans ignore edicts that hurt their economy, but we bend over backwards, and implement everything we're told to do.

There's always a few like you who read their anti-foreigner newspapers and sit in their pubs swapping ridiculous made-up stories and blaming Them Others for everything.

Sorry John, but if you hadn't done a Pavlovian dog whistle response, you'd have realised that I was criticising the Uk govenmernt for not having as much backbone as the French and the Germans, so I fail to see where I'm foreigner bashing.
 
Just how anal can you get Himmy, you keep insisting on sources and examples, as though things aren't valid without them. What were you in a previous life, a tax or a health and safety inspector. I'm relating things I've read, and that should be sufficient. This is supposed to be a general discussion, not a point scoring game.
We can all relate stories, fables, tales and myths. But they are and will remain stories, tales, fables and myths without supporting documentation, evidence, or expert analysis, etc.
 
If you had been able to read my mind better, and guess what I now claim my hidden meaning was...

Either way, you are imagining that people behave differently according to the country in which they reside, and that Brits are inherently "different" from Them Others.

It remains an absurd prejudice.

There remain as many Elbonian nutters as there are people like you.

Do you know which country makes the biggest net financial contribution? Not UK.

Do you know which country contributes the most, per head? Not UK.
 
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Either way, you are imagining that people behave differently according to the country in which they reside, and that Brits are inherently "superior" to Them Others.
I have amended your quote to that which I think is - unfortunately - the true attitude and the result of our form of brainwashing.
 
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PBC has refused to vote in favour, and the result is that I don't get my million pounds.
Of course, because Parliament can refuse to pass legislation proposed by the Commission. That's not what's in dispute.

Yet PBC pretends that I am the one in charge.
O.K., so as Parliament I voted against JohnD being paid a million pounds and you don't get the money. But now I ask you, as the Commission, to send back another proposal requiring that you pay me a million. Obviously you wouldn't like the prospect of submitting such a proposal to Parliament and it being passed. But are you obliged to submit the proposal that Parliament has requested?
 
Just like the committee stages in UK parliament, if the legislation is not suitably modified, it's not supported in parliament.
You could work that out for yourself.:rolleyes:
Of course, but you're still ignoring the situation in which Parliament wishes to pass some specific legislation (and it might be legislation which amends or repeals previous legislation), but the rules are that it's the Commission which has to put the proposed legislation before Parliament.

All you've done thus far is point out a rule change some time ago which now officially permits Parliament to "request" or "suggest" legislation to the Commission for the latter to submit to Parliament. What if the Commission does not like the suggested legislation? Is it still obliged to submit it to Parliament - in the form Parliament requested - anyway?
 
You're original suggestion was to use the EU contributions to cover the cost of these tariffs so that our exports was not affected.
I mentioned in passing as a possibility. As I said before though, obviously the £12 billion or so saved per year cannot be allocated multiple times, but whichever way you look at it, it's a lot of money to be divided up into savings or support in various areas. Whateveris done with that money, it's money which will be helping the U.K. and not being poured in the EU money-pit.
 
You think there aren't already Whitehall bureaucrats administering the U.K. part of the EU scheme?
Are there? How do you know? What department? Where are their offices? What are their titles/names?
Of course there are. Do you think the EU offices are going to deal directly with every farmer in the U.K., every farmer in France, and so on? Every EU scheme involves bureaucrats at the national levels to administer it. I would imagine that in the U.K. it's some part of DEFRA.
 
The french and Germans ignore edicts that hurt their economy, but we bend over backwards, and implement everything we're told to do.
The funny thing is that you might actually believe that anti-foreigner nonsense.
Why do you and a certain other person always try to twist around anything which is said to try and make out that it's anti-foreigner sentiment?
 
Either way, you are imagining that people behave differently according to the country in which they reside, and that Brits are inherently "different" from Them Others.

It remains an absurd prejudice.
But in some ways it's true that Brits are inherently different from other nationalities (and before you try to make such an implication, no that's not meant to imply that "them others" are all the same, since there are many ways in which the French are inherently different from the Germans, the Italians inherently different from the Dutch, and so on).

Making such an observation does not amount to prejudice against other nationalities, merely a recognition that in some ways each nationality is different.

Do you know which country makes the biggest net financial contribution? Not UK.
Do you know which country contributes the most, per head? Not UK.
None of which changes the fact that the U.K. is making a net contribution of about £12 billion per annum or so to this "club."
 
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Please show me the justification for the statement that I commented on.

(prejudice is not justification)
 
How sweet, you're using Nigel's made-up numbers again.
 
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