Help installing a nest device

[David Murphy]

Hi there. I am to install my nest device tonight and just need to clarify that
Nest 1 = CH Off
Nest 3 = CH On
Nest 4 = HW Off
Nest 6= HW On

Also wondering if my current set up has two wires per terminal should that mean I should also have two wires per terminal in the nest devise.

Any help much appreciated

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• David Murphy
• 8 Nov 2016

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• David Murphy
• 8 Nov 2016

 

[Taylortwocities]

Whatever cables are in teh existing thermostat need to go to the Nest.

So, if there are two wires on the CH ON terminal on the existing, you need to move those two to the heating call for heat.

note that your existing stat has the live feed in connected up internally. you will need to add a couple of wires to connect the live to the two common terminals on the nest.

 

[David Murphy]

Whatever cables are in teh existing thermostat need to go to the Nest.

So, if there are two wires on the CH ON terminal on the existing, you need to move those two to the heating call for heat.

note that your existing stat has the live feed in connected up internally. you will need to add a couple of wires to connect the live to the two common terminals on the nest.

Thanks for the reply.
So should I use the CH Off And HW Off also as some say they are not needed?

 

[Taylortwocities]

If your existing stat sends hw and ch satisfied signals then I rather expect your heating plan will also need them from the Nest too!

 

[David Murphy]

Great Ill wire the off wires to the satisfied terminals. Thanks for all the help

 

[roasty]

David,

Couple of points,
1) as already stated, your current programmer has the common terminals already connected to live, you'll need to jumper these yourself on the nest
2) The numbering betwixt nest and your programmer is slightly different. Programmer terminal 1 is nest terminal 4, programmer 2 is nest 1, programmer 3 is nest 6 and programmer 4 is nest 3. You need to connect nest 2 & 5 to live.
3) The nest is hugely annoying, each terminal has room for 1 wire maximum, most of yours will need to fit two and the live terminal will have three in it. You'll struggle here, if I were you, I'd use a single socket box or similar to do the terminations into choc bloc type connectors, and then mount the nest receiver on top of that, you'll NEVER get all the wires you want into the nest unit.
4) if you have a room stat (I presume you do as it looks from the wiring that you have the honeywell Y plan with a 3port mid position motorised valve) you'll want to bridge it out, or else it'll be in series with the nest heating supply and will confuse matters somewhat. Some (most) roomstats have three wires (one is a neutral for the hysteresis heater) and so you'll need to locate which two are the switch contacts and connect them together.
5) you can actually power the nest using the existing roomstat cabling, but you need to (obviously!!) disconnect the mains supply to it, you then use the T1 and T2 terminals on the nest receiver to send power to the nest. Otherwise you need to plug into a socket with the supplied micro usb lead (which can look unattractive if you wall mount it)


Good luck. The nest is a great bit of kit, but the wiring arrangements are poorly thought out in my opinion, screw terminals like on your old school programmer are much nicer to work with.

Hope this helps
Dan