Switch with neon

[tygerbright]

Hi all

We have a downstairs bathroom/wc which has no windows and has a switch on the outside of the room.

Finding that the kids are often leaving the switch on (so LED lights and extractor fan run continuously). We had a case where the fan was running all day

I was hoping that I could fit some sort of replacement switch with an indicator to show when the switch was in the 'ON' position. e.g. http://www.aet-electrical.co.uk/screless-satin-20a-switch.html

Trouble is these require a Neutral to be wired in (I do have neutral wires at the point available but not sure it's simply a case of wiring it in). See image below for current switch in place:

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I also think the item I'm looking at it probably more for cookers etc but unable to locate anything similar fit for purpose.

Any advice appreciated

 

[EFLImpudence]

Yes, just connect as per the instructions.

The one in your link is not for cookers, so will not be so 'clunky' to operate as cooker ones.

 

[aptsys]

You could use a grid with neon and a standard 10AX switch.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

1. It would still need a N.
2. It would cost more.
3. It would be more complicated to install
4. It would look worse.

 

[winston1]

You could use a grid with neon and a standard 10AX switch.

Or you could try training the kids. Having a neon outside won't stop them leaving it on otherwise.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Is there not an audible warning that the fan is running? E.g. the fan running.

 

[aptsys]

1. It would still need a N.
2. It would cost more.
3. It would be more complicated to install
4. It would look worse.

Looks like there's an earth there

 

[mwatsonxx]

Looks like there's an earth there

You're an idiot.

 

[Bosswhite]

Why not Change the fan for one with a timer incorporated

 

[JohnW2]

Why not Change the fan for one with a timer incorporated

It quite possibly already has a timer.

The OP's problem is that his children are leaving the light switched on, so that the (light-switch-controlled) fan is staying on continuously. The same would happen (uf the light was left switched on) regardless of whether or not it was a timer fan.

Kind Regards, John

 

[aptsys]

PIR?

 

[JohnW2]

PIR?

Technically an option - but it usually only a matter of time before people who install PIRs to control indoor lights in their home get driven mad by them - and change them for something more sensible!

Kind Regards, John

 

[333rocky333]

You can get switches with locaters on, that dont need neutral but they will only indicate when the light is OFF

The newer ones are like this but it dont say whether the thing goes off when the lights on or glows permanently

https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/MKK3041.html

 

[EFLImpudence]

He has a neutral and can use the switch he wants.

 

[rsgaz]

A pneumatic switch would work in this situation, or the modern equivalent, seeing as you have the neutral there already...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01MYMZG1H/

PIRs to control indoor lights in their home get driven mad by them

In the places I work they are everywhere nowadays, yes they are indeed infuriating, but only because the installers have set them on a 30 second or so timer. I've even seen them in office toilets, where, if you are having a sit down job, you cannot trigger the PIR after you've been plunged into darkness, because it can't detect you! How idiotic!

If they were set to 10 minutes or more they would be fine though for most applications.

Gaz