Very old but brand new BICC 3/029 cable reels

IHNI whether it is, or is not, worth trying to sell.

I do know that if I had it I would run it up the eBay flagpole to see if anybody saluted before I took the scrapman's shilling.

There are no "modern regs" which make this cable unusable or disallowed - as long as it is sound its electrical characteristics are known, and there is not one single reason, per se, why it is not still useful.

Look at what a 100m roll of 1.5mm² 6491X cable costs. Your rolls are 91.4m, but that should give you an idea of where to pitch an eBay price between that and the scrap value.
 
Unstripped you get about 3 pound a sack round here, so id quess a tight wrapped coil equates to the same.
Id quess at least double money stripped, but so time consuming , would it be viable and then you have a heap of pvc and likely blisters and cuts
 
IHNI whether it is, or is not, worth trying to sell.

I do know that if I had it I would run it up the eBay flagpole to see if anybody saluted before I took the scrapman's shilling.

There are no "modern regs" which make this cable unusable or disallowed - as long as it is sound its electrical characteristics are known, and there is not one single reason, per se, why it is not still useful.

Look at what a 100m roll of 1.5mm² 6491X cable costs. Your rolls are 91.4m, but that should give you an idea of where to pitch an eBay price between that and the scrap value.

Good plan you can list it for free.
Put a start price at about its Burning wire scrap price
Put collection only, even someone with a stripping machine and time to spare may buy it with a view to scrap as bright copper
 
Those colours are still used today for 24 volt and 50 volt panel wiring, so no reason why you should not sell it.
Does the voltage a cable is used at make a difference to the minimum standards required ? What I mean is, if the 4491X has been superceded by the 6491X which is thicker copper - and only the 6491X is permitted to be used with mains voltage in UK - then does using it for 24V and 50V or even 110V mean the regs. are irrelevant ?
 
Its more to do with the colours

240v and higher voltages are limited to certain Solid colours, exception being G/Y earth
As Bas said earlier the terminations can be oversleeved
Your cable is still larger than for example 1mm that is allowed on 240volt, however 6491x has never been made in 1mm I assume due to mechanical strength.

As far as I know the regs apply to all voltages, though some regs are specific for the voltage.
A 12 volt connection AFAIK is treated the same as a 400volt connection, ie accesable and in an enclosure
 
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Its more to do with the colours

240v and higher voltages are limited to certain Solid colours, exception being G/Y earth
As Bas said earlier the terminations can be oversleeved
Your cable is still larger than for example 1mm that is allowed on 240volt, however 6491x has never been made in 1mm I assume due to mechanical strength.

As far as I know the regs apply to all voltages, though some regs are specific for the voltage.
A 12 volt connection AFAIK is treated the same as a 400volt connection, ie accesable and in an enclosure
Many thanks for that. As suggested earlier in the forum I have checked the price for the 6491X which seems to range between £10 and £16 (ex VAT) per reel of 100 metres, so if I list the various colours on Ebay for say £4 per reel of 100 yards - as long as I make sure it is clear that the 4491X is no longer on the market and has been superceded - and that the buyer needs to be aware of current regs. regarding cable - that should hopefully eliminate someone buying it in the mistaken belief that it is a current product. No pun intended !
 
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- as long as I make sure it is clear that the 4491X is no longer on the market and has been superceded - and that the buyer needs to be aware of current regs. regarding cable - that should hopefully eliminate someone buying it in the mistaken belief that it is a current product. No pun intended !
You can say all that if you want to but, in the final analysis, if you simply describe the product accurately (as you have done here) it is up to buyers to determine whether it is suitable for their purpose and what they intend to do with it.

Kind Regards, John
 
The picture of the drum will give away how old it is. I wasn't around, but cable changed to metric around 1970? That makes the cable at least 45 years old, and that shows from the pictures. If anybody buying it thinks it's new, they're silly.
 
You can say all that if you want to but, in the final analysis, if you simply describe the product accurately (as you have done here) it is up to buyers to determine whether it is suitable for their purpose and what they intend to do with it.

Kind Regards, John
Many thanks. I suppose I feel the more information a potential buyer has, the better - for them as well as for me. This forum has been really helpful yet again. A pleasure to visit and very helpful and informative members.
 
The picture of the drum will give away how old it is. I wasn't around, but cable changed to metric around 1970? That makes the cable at least 45 years old, and that shows from the pictures. If anybody buying it thinks it's new, they're silly.
After that length of time, is the pvc still sound ? Does cable have a shelf life ?
The short bit of pvc that I stripped from the copper core was flexible and sound and the reels have been kept in a dry building for all these years.
 
Can you weigh one of the coils, that will give you a guide price for scrap.
Postage will no doubt be costly, so its a bit of a niche market across the UK , let alone shropshire.
Selling as a job lot may be preferable,
It does seem a shame but scrapping, will get it done and dusted, its not all gloom, the copper will be reused, albeit possibly shipped off to china.
 

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