Stove questions.....

[motorbiking]

I did my first one but got a pro to do the second as it needed to be signed off.

 

[Doggit]

I researched the internet, and found all the info on how to do it. I screwed up fitting the chimney cowl, but sorted it out, so I'll know better next time. Everything is straight forward, and you just need someone at the bottom of the chimney pulling the liner as you feed it down. Hence scaffolding good for a beginner. But if the scaffolding cost and the building control fee are less than a fitting charge, then you can bring the job in under budget.

 

[ripperuk]

The cost of scaffolding and building control for me is around £500-£600, which does make it financially viable.

The hetas installer also advised that I'd have remove the gas flue liner out which he said was not designed for heat from stoves (not sure if there is a difference between the gas and stove linings?????)..

Can the existing gas liner be used?

He recommended a 316 liner for a multifuel stove.

 

[Doggit]

You definitely need to replace the gas liner. you can use a 316, but a 904 will last longer.

 

[ripperuk]

Hi again, thanks for all your help and advice.....just to let you know that I've ordered the Dunsley Highlander 5SG slimline, with 316 liner. Stove, liner and hetas installation, which includes opening the chimney are £1850.... What do you think?

 

[lostinthelight]

If I intended staying at a property for any lenght of time , I would be fitting 150mm 904 flue!

litl

 

[ripperuk]

I was originally going to go for the 904, but my decision was based on some websites as well as speaking to some installers, whom state that the 904 is slightly thicker steel, but once corrosion sets in, then it won't matter because it will still corrode and may only last slightly longer.

Now I hope this isn't true, but I spoke to one of my neighbours and he said that the government are looking at banning the wood burning stoves altogether due to them being serious air polluters...anyone know anything about this?

 

[lostinthelight]

• 904 is harder to get round bends and the extra cost could put potential clients off so could be the reason some installers are not keen to use it ?

litl

 

[Doggit]

That story started about 6 weeks ago, and was linked to the diesel particulate issues, but I thinks it's aggitation rather than a government idea.

 

[ripperuk]

So we don't have to worry about wood stoves being banned in the near future?

Couple of things....it will cost and extra £150 if I go for the 904 flue...is it worth it?

Also what do you think about the quote and the type of stove? Is it worth it?

Lastly, I've found someone willing to deliver:

• Small quantities - hard wood in ikea bag - £6.50 per full bag
• Large quantities - 1 tonne of hard wood in bulk bag for £60.

The wood is a Mix of Ash, Cherry, Silver Birch and Oak. Is this worth it?

 

[Doggit]

I can't see stoves being banned in the near future, if ever; they'll just tighten up the regulations on them.

Not sure if I'd bother with the 904, but as it's a Hetas installation, they're the ones struggling with it. See if they can shave the difference to cost price though.

I'd say the stove is pretty much a general purpose one, not high end, but I've seen worse. The reviews are fairly okay for it though. Can't comment on the costs though as I don't know the building work, but I think it's fairly reasonable.

 

[lostinthelight]

I have heard that in 10 years time, anyone one selling firewood , it will have to be a max of 20percent moisture.
litl

 

[ripperuk]

I have found a few articles going back 9 months, stating how wood burning stoves should be banned due to them pumping out polluting emissions.

Unfortunately the installer is not willing to budge on the price anymore.

What do you think of the price for the dry wood? Is it worth it or should I be able to get it much cheaper?

 

[lostinthelight]

Lastly, I've found someone willing to deliver:

• Small quantities - hard wood in ikea bag - £6.50 per full bag
• Large quantities - 1 tonne of hard wood in bulk bag for £60.

The wood is a Mix of Ash, Cherry, Silver Birch and Oak. Is this worth it?

Firstly, if one has to buy wood its not a cheap form of heat.
Secondly, the one tonne of hardwood in bulk bag will be nowhere near one tonne in weight ,firewood is mostly sold by volume so one will be buying the capacity of a dumpy with the volume of around 1m³
litl.

 

[ripperuk]

Right, thanks lostinlight. So how do I save money??? What can you guys recommend?