Brexit

[transam]

McDonald could give every school kid a free copy of maos little red book . (The one he carry's around with him)

 

[noseall]

Did you?

Yes.

Did you want JohnD to post it? Is that what your problem is?

 

[Notch7]

Well I dunno, Looking at all the posts, and the links, maybe Corbin didn't ever say he'd write off student debt, but it sure looks as though he implied it sufficiently for his stablemates to come out with the same comment, so maybe I've got to side with JohnD on this one; even if he does make himself look like an Ostritch with his head in the sand.

Unfortunately JohnD has twisted what I said, I never said promise.

JC said he would deal with the debt and some of his MPs stated that student debt would be written off.

After the election, JC downgraded 'deal with it', to 'its an ambition'.

The reality is that it bought the youth vote. Which wont happen next time. Its got JohnD rattled, thats why he keeps denying it

The most balanced interpretation is
https://fullfact.org/education/student-debt-what-did-labour-say/

Personally I dont think ending student debt or tuition fees is a good policy for social democracy.

 

[transam]

Unfortunately JohnD has twisted what I said, I never said promise.

JC said he would deal with the debt and some of his MPs stated that student debt would be written off.

After the election, JC downgraded 'deal with it', to 'its an ambition'.

The reality is that it bought the youth vote. Which wont happen next time. Its got JohnD rattled, thats why he keeps denying it

The most balanced interpretation is
https://fullfact.org/education/student-debt-what-did-labour-say/

Personally I dont think ending student debt or tuition fees is a good policy for social democracy.

yep this caper was discussed on the radio at length , corbyn mis leading the easily lead student voters

(He rattles because he is full of pills may be ??) some cause hallucinations

 

[Brigadier]

Yes.

Did you want JohnD to post it? Is that what your problem is?

My problem is your link doesn't support the claim.

Farage said "could be a demand.....", "...I don't want a second referendum", "I won't fight for a second referendum".....

Nowhere does it support the claim that "Farage said we need a second referendum".

 

[JohnD]

Unfortunately JohnD has twisted what I said

Notch continues to be unable to find any proof of his lies.

Because it doesn't exist.

He doesn't even want to show the interview clip.

Because it proves him to be a liar.

 

[noseall]

My problem is your link doesn't support the claim.

Farage said "could be a demand.....", "...I don't want a second referendum", "I won't fight for a second referendum".....

Nowhere does it support the claim that "Farage said we need a second referendum".

Gotcha. I guess I'm stuffed.

 

[noseall]

And still Labour are ahead in the polls.

 

[transam]

Notch continues to be unable to find any proof of his lies.

Because it doesn't exist.

He doesn't even want to show the interview clip.

Because it proves him to be a liar.

take it up with the BBC

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

You certainly compared it to TM's pledge, therefore implied it was a promise:

TM likes her pledges to do something.
Maybe this pledge will go the same way as the others:

A bit like Jeremy Corbyn paying off student debt and ending student loans.
After the election, he finally admitted it was only 'an ambition'

I never said promise.

 

[transam]

And still Labour are ahead in the polls.

polls tories were 20 points ahead in the polls when they called a general election

Polls

 

[Brigadier]

Gotcha. I guess I'm stuffed.

To borrow a phrase, "Parity, boyo"

 

[noseall]

Even Froggy Farage said (before the referendum) that a 48/52 vote wasn't decisive and the argument needed to be resolved with a further vote.

Sounds familiar though....


Nigel Farage warns today he would fight for a second referendum on Britain in Europe if the remain campaign won by a narrow margin next month. Farage told the Mirror: “In a 52-48 referendum this would be unfinished business

Read more

Yup, I think this supports JohnD's claim.

Boyo.

 

[noseall]

The reality is that it bought the youth vote. Which wont happen next time

Correct. They are already on board.
Labour are ahead of the Tories. Brexit is tearing the Tories apart. Sh itty business brexit.

 

[JohnD]

take it up with the BBC

I phoned the BBC, I said "do you accept any responsibility for nonsense posted on the interweb by some obsessive right-wing Surrey plumber?"

they said "nothing to do with us. He's on his own."