Sunderland gets what it voted for...

[ban-all-sheds]

Your original source was the Institute of Government which is a remainer funded website.
Any information from these type of sites cannot be considered reliable or impartial so why do you insist quoting these sources.

Why do you assume that because an organisation is funded by people with different beliefs to that the information cannot be considered reliable or impartial?

Facts are facts.

From what sources do you get information? Do you consider who funds them? What steps do you take to verify how truthful they are?

My original reply was to nosall who claimed that the UK was obliged to pay the EU £39billion in the event of a no deal.
I pointed out that the UK government was under no obligation to pay the EU anything in the event of a no deal.

Please highlight the facts in this: https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainers/eu-divorce-bill which you claim are wrong, and explain why they are, and provide sources for what you claim are the actual facts.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Ok.When will you stop weeping over EU?.

You wait until you start.

 

[durhamplumber]

Why do you assume that because an organisation is funded by people with different beliefs to that the information cannot be considered reliable or impartial?

Facts are facts.

Indeed.

 

[durhamplumber]

You wait until you start.

What?

 

[durhamplumber]

Why do you assume that because an organisation is funded by people with different beliefs to that the information cannot be considered reliable or impartial?

Facts are facts.

From what sources do you get information? Do you consider who funds them? What steps do you take to verify how truthful they are?



Please highlight the facts in this: https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainers/eu-divorce-bill which you claim are wrong, and explain why they are, and provide sources for what you claim are the actual facts.

Generally,Shedzy,,,instead of trawling google,I look around the country with Mark 1 eyeballs...Regardless of who is responsible for shafting the steel,coal,shipbuilding,,,and 99% of other industries we do not have anymore,,,40 years of EU has done sweet FA to help out,,,so instead of trying another 40 years with EU,,,GTFO, because whether there is a plan or not,anything is better than EU,,,right or wrong,,,that is how it is,,,we out,,,you are out,,,sit and whinge and post your IRA bomb pix,,,or be optimistic,,,we leaving EU....Soon...And if UK makes a complete balls,,,then so be it....Cannot blame EU anymore!!!.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Under the Withdrawal agreement Britain was obliged to pay £39billion ,under a no deal Britain isn't obliged to pay the EU anything

That isn't correct, the 39 billion has only been provisionally agreed with the EU and only becomes payable when a deal is approved by Parliament.
the 39billion was part of T.Ms withdrawal agreement with the EU and was contingent on the WHOLE deal being approved and implemented by Parliament.
As you must know Theresa's deal was kicked out by Parliament, because Theresa's deal was thrown out by Parliament there is no obligation to pay the EU a penny.

At least you admit the the Government is under no obligation to pay the EU a penny.
Any payment to the EU is by mutual agreement of the EU and the UK.

I pointed out that the UK government was under no obligation to pay the EU anything in the event of a no deal.

It is quite simple, if the EU wants any money from the UK then something will be required in return.
Is it fair that in the event of a no deal that the UK should still hand over 39billion to the EU.
Tarrif free access to the EU with no political strings attached should be the minimum starting point before they get a penny.

Any divorce payments will only be payable when a deal has been agreed by both parties.
No deal no payments.

It was a provisional agreement contingent on any withdrawal deal being ratified by the British parliament.

The divorce bill was part of the Withdrawal agreement negotiated by Theresa May and as such was only a provisional agreement to pay subject to the Withdrawal agreement being approved by Parliament.

Wrong again! negotiations to leave the EU began in March 2017 the divorce payments come under the heading of financial settlement.
In September 2018 Barnier conceded that any divorce payments be linked to a trade agreement with the UK.
No deal No Cash!

In the event of a no deal the UK is under no obligation to pay anything

Never mind whether it's £39bn, or £350M/week for 50 years, or 39p, nor what any agreement so far says about a financial settlement, do you accept that the UK has any financial liabilities accrued during our membership of the EU?

 

[durhamplumber]

Never mind whether it's £39bn, or £350M/week for 50 years, or 39p, nor what any agreement so far says about a financial settlement, do you accept that the UK has any financial liabilities accrued during our membership of the EU?

Getting sweet fa without a deal.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

the Institute for Government which is a remainer funded website which tries to pass itself off as an official government information outlet

Your source is a remainer funded website that poses as an official Government website

Please show us, with the aid of screenshots of the website, in what way it tries to pass itself off as an official government information outlet, or poses as an official Government website.

YOU think that this is true, so YOU must be able to show us what YOU think is proof of it.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

That is demonstrably false. Why do you continue to push BS?

Because he wants it to be true.

He is one of those poor deluded people who thinks that if he often enough, and vehemently enough, proclaims that a falsehood which he wishes were true is true, then somehow it will magically become true.

The problem for people like that is that reality takes SFA notice of them.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Getting sweet fa without a deal.

Do you think that we have any financial liabilities accrued during our membership of the EU?

 

[durhamplumber]

Please show us, with the aid of screenshots of the website, in what way it tries to pass itself off as an official government information outlet, or poses as an official Government website.

YOU think that this is true, so YOU must be able to show us what YOU think is proof o

You ppl are unreal

 

[durhamplumber]

Do you think that we have any financial liabilities accrued during our membership of the EU?

Not without a deal..How many other ways would you like it spelled out?

 

[Notch7]

We will agree to disagree,,with all of the above!!!

I want to disagree with it too -Im no fan of the EU, or its mission creep.

But the UK has done well out of being part of the EU and it we currently have a better deal now than the one we are negotiating.

Although many in the UK disagree with the EU, it has been instrumental in its development -Margaret Thatcher was instrumental in setting up the single market.

 

[durhamplumber]

I want to disagree with it too -Im no fan of the EU, or its mission creep.

But the UK has done well out of being part of the EU and it we currently have a better deal now than the one we are negotiating.

Although many in the UK disagree with the EU, it has been instrumental in its development -Margaret Thatcher was instrumental in setting up the single market.

And instrumental in shaftin the coal industry, and instrumental in endless arguments over EU subs.

 

[Bodd]

Other countries will look at the UK unilateral approach and think perhaps it's not a great idea to trade with a country that tears up agreements that it doesn't like.

So if a country outside the EU has something to sell us, would they not want our business?

I just don't understand why they wouldnt?