Farewell Democracy...

[Mottie]

We're all fiiick. Too fick to vote.
Perhaps we should just leave it to Notchy, ellal, JohnD etc to vote for us. Yeah, that’s what we should do. Everything would be good then - they know who to vote for. Hey, who do they vote for?

 

[Bodd]

Hey, who do they vote for?

They vote for the people. They vote to remain.... They are the peoples champions.....

 

[fillyboy]

So its democratic to enact a non binding referendum but not when our representatives vote against imlplementing it

I don't think Cameron described it as non binding did he?
"It is time for the British people to have their say," he said. "It is time to settle this European question in British politics. I say to the British people: this will be your decision."

but it is democratic to prorogue parliament?

Parliament's not being prorogued though is it?

 

[Notch7]

We're all fiiick. Too fick to vote.
Perhaps we should just leave it to Notchy, ellal, JohnD etc to vote for us. Yeah, that’s what we should do. Everything would be good then - they know who to vote for. Hey, who do they vote for?

No, I do not think that, you run a very successful business, of course I dont think you, or anybody else is thick.

What I do say, is that you wont engage in a serious debate about any detail as regards Brexit.
The Brexit debate is driven by emotive soundbites -because that wins political arguments despite having minimalconnection to the truth and unfortunately that is the position that you are in.

I understand its easy to take the p!$$ out of me for talking about facts, which is all fine, but ultimately it does not do anything to further the debate.

The tribal nature of Brexit means there is so little discussion or consensus of opinion.

I get frustrated with Leavers constantly making emotionally biased soundbites about the EU, despite having a total lack of knowledge about it.

I feel the same way about remainers who dont accept that the mission creep of the EU is a concern for many.


In the end it doesnt matter what side of the debate people are on, what matters is the honesty of the debate -with each other and to ourselves.

Sadly honest debate is sadly lacking......

 

[sodthisforfun]

 

[Keithmac]

It's just so ironic that the remoaners moan on about "democracy", while ignoring the MAJORITY vote for OUT.

Double standard pond scum MP's clinging on for their cushy EU seats.

Democracy died 3 years ago..

 

[Notch7]

It's just so ironic that the remoaners moan on about "democracy", while ignoring the MAJORITY vote for OUT.

Double standard pond scum MP's clinging on for their cushy EU seats.

Democracy died 3 years ago..

This is the 'will of the people' argument.........an often repeated soundbite.

The reason its been going on for 3 years is because Leavers cant agree what they want......entirely due to fact a non damaging Brexit is not deliverable.

Double standard pond scum MP's clinging on for their cushy EU seats

You conveniently forget the fact that
64% of the 22 members of the extended cabinet voted Remain, compared to just 36% who voted for Brexit.

Remain voters: Sajid Javid, Ben Wallace, Matt Hancock, Robert Buckland, Gavin Williamson, Liz Truss, Grant Shapps, Robert Jenrick, Baroness Evans, Alun Cairns, Julian Smith, Alok Sharma, Nicky Morgan, Amber Rudd

Yup 64% of Johnsons have changed their mind to further their career.

 

[festive]

Oh so eloquently summarised more worried about her son being a rapist omfg thats close to the bone...so to speak. (funny all the same)

 

[sbgasman]

The reason its been going on for 3 years is because Leavers cant agree what they want.

the reason it has dragged on for 3 years is because a lying remainer was in charge for most of the time , she was only there because of smear tactics used against Leadsome

 

[Bodd]

Yup 64% of Johnsons have changed their mind to further their career

Yet you've changed your mind. This smells of ogeese and ganders....

 

[Bodd]

The reason its been going on for 3 years is because Leavers cant agree what they want....

That's because we voted out. We didn't vote for suicide. I would have stayed in rather than go with the deal we had.

 

[Bodd]

Remain voters: Sajid Javid, Ben Wallace, Matt Hancock, Robert Buckland, Gavin Williamson, Liz Truss, Grant Shapps, Robert Jenrick, Baroness Evans, Alun Cairns, Julian Smith, Alok Sharma, Nicky Morgan, Amber Rudd

Yup 64% of Johnsons have changed their mind to further their career.

Why do you feel the need to name them all? Is it just so your bosses can see your doing your job?

 

[Notch7]

That's because we voted out. We didn't vote for suicide. I would have stayed in rather than go with the deal we had.

You might have voted for suicide.
You dont know.

You just voted 'out'.

But you dont know why, you dont know how.

 

[Notch7]

Yet you've changed your mind. This smells of ogeese and ganders....

Please can you think about what you post.

What is the difference between those MPs now in the cabinet and me.

 

[Notch7]

the reason it has dragged on for 3 years is because a lying remainer was in charge for most of the time , she was only there because of smear tactics used against Leadsome

Oh dear, the same old drivel.

This is the reason:
Theresa May couldnt get any further because of the arithmetic in parliament.

As for a smear against Leadsome, ehat utther garbage.
Johnson had loads of tactical voting to get him in power.