2.3m people

I work in a small control room, it is covered 24/7 by four shifts. In the first Covid wave, nobody was infected, in this wave, 2 complete shifts became infected (except 1 person). The SAGE committee/Government, might actually be on to something....

Too many variables inside and outside the setting you describe, to place any more weight on a more virulent lurgy than anything other possibility IMHO.
 
I work in a small control room, it is covered 24/7 by four shifts. In the first Covid wave, nobody was infected, in this wave, 2 complete shifts became infected (except 1 person). The SAGE committee/Government, might actually be on to something....

When u say infected..... what do u understand by that? If its clinically sick people, with symptoms who have had their diagnosis made based on symptoms and confirmed by PCR test, then ok..... but if its 'just a positive PCR test', then the conclusion made is skewed
 
When u say infected..... what do u understand by that? If its clinically sick people, with symptoms who have had their diagnosis made based on symptoms and confirmed by PCR test, then ok..... but if its 'just a positive PCR test', then the conclusion made is skewed
They were all sick, 2 of them very ill indeed, only one got away with minor symptoms.
 
When u say infected..... what do u understand by that? If its clinically sick people, with symptoms who have had their diagnosis made based on symptoms and confirmed by PCR test, then ok..... but if its 'just a positive PCR test', then the conclusion made is skewed
PCR tests are the gold-standard for Covid-19 diagnosis. They're up in the 90% or better range. The entire point of testing is to identify positive cases so they don't unknowingly infect others.

I doubt BodgedBuild would be particularly happy with a colleague who rocked up to the small control room with a positive test result but no symptoms.
 
PCR tests are the gold-standard for Covid-19 diagnosis. They're up in the 90% or better range. The entire point of testing is to identify positive cases so they don't unknowingly infect others.


I doubt BodgedBuild would be particularly happy with a colleague who rocked up to the small control room with a positive test result but no symptoms.


Karry Mullins disagrees, as do many many other 'science folk'.
 
The PCR test is accurate enough to be able to tell people to isolate from others, that is its purpose. It is not a medical diagnostic tool
To a degree it is, if you've got Covid-19 then you get Dexamethasone and tocilizumab if you're seriously ill. They would be dangerous for many people who are seriously unwell as they weaken or modify the immune system and immune response.

Even diagnostic tools have error margins.
 
Matt Hancock: "Britons are 'highly likely' to need a Covid vaccination every year for the 'foreseeable' future"
If that is true for us, it will be true for everyone unless they have a special one-off vaccine for the rest of the world.
 
If that is true for us, it will be true for everyone unless they have a special one-off vaccine for the rest of the world.
My tuppence is that after the initial waves die out we'll end up with something like the Flu Vaccine. A yearly shot for more elderly or high risk people and maybe if you're going traveling.

But it's really guesswork right now, some vaccines last decades and there's nothing saying that Covid-19 had to mutate to a strain that vaccines don't work on.

Eradication is probably possible, but it requires a lot of effort and once you've got it under control in the richer countries we'll lose interest.
 
but the numbers and target dates seem to change.

That is bound to happen, whole population vaccination, with a workforce which itself might get the bug and become unavailable, all makes it difficult to produce precise targets. All they can do, is their best efforts and they will become better and more organised as time goes on.
 
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