omnicalculator: tells you when you will get the vaccine

[johnny2007]

So what have you done about your specific problem? Have you spoken with your GP about getting them to up the urgency of your referral? Have you chased the clinics directly about getting an appointment? Have you considered going private?

Not my problem personally but someone's close to me.
They've spoken to the gp several times.
After threatening to go to gmc they finally get referred to consultant.
Guess what?
A telephone consultation.
Back to square one bothering the gp.
Gp eventually under threats refers again.
This time face to face appointment 5 months down the line.
At appointment being referred for mri, another 3 months.
Compressed nerve.
Then a nerve test called electromiography.
Turns out, after 18 months that the shoulder nerve is compromised beyond repair.
Only conservative treatment available.
Painkillers and the possibility of cortisone injection God Covid knows when.
Arm will never recover.
Thanks Lord Covid, in You we trust.

 

[IT Minion]

Should have seen a physio, people keep thinking that GPs are any use for muscular issues when they're really not very good at them.

The Physio can use the correct clever words to get you a referral to a consultant if needed. Or just fix the problem.

 

[ajohn]

Not my problem personally but someone's close to me.
They've spoken to the gp several times.
After threatening to go to gmc they finally get referred to consultant.
Guess what?
A telephone consultation.
Back to square one bothering the gp.
Gp eventually under threats refers again.
This time face to face appointment 5 months down the line.
At appointment being referred for mri, another 3 months.
Compressed nerve.
Then a nerve test called electromiography.
Turns out, after 18 months that the shoulder nerve is compromised beyond repair.
Only conservative treatment available.
Painkillers and the possibility of cortisone injection God Covid knows when.
Arm will never recover.
Thanks Lord Covid, in You we trust.

My wife has been through that via a local orthopaedic hospital also treatment in a main hospital via an orthopaedic surgeon that specialises in certain parts of the body. 2 of them actually at different times. More problems though. It's not a quick service at the best of times due to availability and that probably varies across the country. Near a couple of years. An mri late on showed another problem. She is due injections but cancelled as it would cause immune problems. True but there is another reason as well. The orthopaedic hospitals normally treats loads for all sorts. They don't want covid in it so services are severely restricted and some people may well be elsewhere at the moment.

I too have a shoulder problem. Left one. Cropped up precovid and got no where with the GP. My wife went round and did her nut. That resulted in the offer of an operation that involves bone removal. Some regret having it so I went for a steroid injection that hadn't been offered before. The supply of those is limited. It's worked for maybe 2 years. Both factors explain why the GP was reluctant.

So we both have a similar problem. Need a service that has never been rapid complicated by the fact that neither treatment always lasts and usually there is no rush for people to get it. They'll manage. Bit like joint replacements. What got me was being sent for ultrasound scans. It might have been a muscle tear but wasn't but end of as far as gp was concerned. The other aspect is that the problem could be caused in several areas. Testing may have found that prior to having bone chipped. Or would it? Also getting a lung problems down to a general anaesthetic given due to a minor nose operation. Cleared up a bit but not completely. In my case would the same happen again. Then my wife's experiences.

MRI it seems is too expensive in areas where it might be a good idea to use it early on. We haven't enough of them is likely to be the real reason.

 

[johnny2007]

Should have seen a physio, people keep thinking that GPs are any use for muscular issues when they're really not very good at them.

The Physio can use the correct clever words to get you a referral to a consultant if needed. Or just fix the problem.

Physio was out of the equation because they too only do telephone consultations.
Physio, over the phone.
And people still clap for these clowns who are supposed to serve them.

 

[Mottie]

I’m getting nearer and nearer to the front of that queue quicker than I ever imagined. It was projected for June when I first checked. April on Feb 1st, today, I’m due on 28 March.

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Another move of the date.
Given a vaccination rate of 3,107,602 a week and an uptake of 70.6%, you should expect to receive your first dose of vaccine between 26/03/2021 and 07/04/2021.

 

[big-all]

Another move of the date.
Given a vaccination rate of 3,107,602 a week and an uptake of 70.6%, you should expect to receive your first dose of vaccine between 26/03/2021 and 07/04/2021.

just done some calculations
add all vunerable in the first group including any body 70+ this group adds to 14.6m people and are du to be finnished mid feb
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274
if we now give them there seconds dose at the full rate available off 3.1 it will take around 5 weeks taking it to end off march with no vacinations off any body else
or perhaps half capacity to fit withing the 12 week after first dose requirement so 12 weeks after mid feb =12 may with approximately 3.1 x12 doses going =37.2- 14.6 doses = 22.6 available for others over the 12w[1.88 a week]
22.6 would cover 65-69[2.9 ]perhaps 3 weeks to early march
next group 60-64 plus under 60with health problems [9.1]perhaps another 6 weeks end off april [leaving around 11m doses available to 12/may]
you would then have others 50+=7m and up to 4m spare doses extra by may 12
but lets assume +/-5-10% so reasonable to assume above 50 all on at least first dose around may 12 but then second dose for 65 plus starting then at 1/3 capacity

 

[johnny2007]

just done some calculations
add all vunerable in the first group including any body 70+ this group adds to 14.6m people and are du to be finnished mid feb
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274
if we now give them there seconds dose at the full rate available off 3.1 it will take around 5 weeks taking it to end off march with no vacinations off any body else
or perhaps half capacity to fit withing the 12 week after first dose requirement so 12 weeks after mid feb =12 may with approximately 3.1 x12 doses going =37.2- 14.6 doses = 22.6 available for others over the 12w[1.88 a week]
22.6 would cover 65-69[2.9 ]perhaps 3 weeks to early march
next group 60-64 plus under 60with health problems [9.1]perhaps another 6 weeks end off april [leaving around 11m doses available to 12/may]
you would then have others 50+=7m and up to 4m spare doses extra by may 12
but lets assume +/-5-10% so reasonable to assume above 50 all on at least first dose around may 12 but then second dose for 65 plus starting then at 1/3 capacity

I lost you at the 3.1...

 

[big-all]

I lost you at the 3.1...

yes its complicated lol
to my brain it looks quite clear i realize to others it wtf or whats the point moment
but its going to give an unbiased with no opinion suggestion off whats happening rather than a slanted veiw

 

[Dangee]

**** me. Just checked..... Said I should have had it last month!!

 

[johnny2007]

yes its complicated lol
to my brain it looks quite clear i realize to others it wtf or whats the point moment
but its going to give an unbiased with no opinion suggestion off whats happening rather than a slanted veiw

Especially on a friday night after a dozen beers

 

[big-all]

Especially on a friday night after a dozen beers

yes indeed

 

[JohnD]

...if we now give them there seconds dose at the full rate available off 3.1 it will take around 5 weeks taking it to end off march with no vacinations off any body else...

It is to be hoped that the vaccine factories will keep being built or expanded, efficiency improved, and output will increase. But early estimates have turned out to be unreliable so possibly supply may run short. I hear that some batches have turned out to be substandard and been rejected at QC.

 

[Mottie]

Find a UK bonfire and you can be sure that JohnD will do his best to p iss on it. No surprises there. Where did you hear that JohnD - at the international multi-millionaires investors club or on the car radio on one of your twice weekly Scotland to East London runs?

 

[JohnD]

Silly mottie following me around like a yappy dog.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Whatever was said before is no excuse for your comment.And as i said..people with chronic conditions are being treated..Big difference between managing patient with potential of dieing in next 5 mins over someone with chronic condition.

I am described as 'chronic' and being managed mostly with phone calls - am I complaining? No I am absolutely not. I understand the difficulties and accept they are doing their best in very difficult circumstances.