Democracy? What kind of democracy is this?

[Notch7]

The long sulk brigade....Lol..top line.

Brexers never stop whining about the EU

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Anyway any border poll would require parallel consent from both communities in N. I.
The B.A. was based on that principle.

I'm not sure whether you've been subjected to typical twisting propaganda of a political party in NI, or you genuinely do not understand the Good Friday Agreement. But you are wrong. The specific requirement has not been formulated:

How would a border poll be held in Northern Ireland?
As part of the Good Friday Agreement, an explicit provision for holding a Northern Ireland border poll was made in UK law. The Northern Ireland Act 1998 states that “if at any time it appears likely to him that a majority of those voting would express a wish that Northern Ireland should cease to be part of the United Kingdom and form part of a united Ireland”, the Secretary of State shall make an Order in Council enabling a border poll.

It is not clear exactly what would satisfy this requirement. The Constitution Unit suggests that a consistent majority in opinion polls, a Catholic majority in a census, a nationalist majority in the Northern Ireland Assembly, or a vote by a majority in the Assembly could all be considered evidence of majority support for a united Ireland. However, the Secretary of State must ultimately decide whether the condition has been met.
https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainers/irish-reunification​

The N. I. Government also operates on that principle as well.
Legislation can't be passed unless a majority in both communities vote for it.

Sorry, Vinty, but you're wrong again. For sure, some legislation requires the support of the majority of the both Unionist and Nationalist factions (not Parties, not communities.). But most legislation is passed on a simple majority.

Most decisions of the Assembly are taken by a simple majority vote. However, certain key decisions such as approval of the budget must have cross-community support. Cross-community support is defined in law as the support of the majority voting, a majority of those designated nationalist voting and a majority of those designated unionist voting.
https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/article...bly is,meets at Parliament Buildings, Belfast.​

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Scummy Varadkar using the deaths of British soldiers and civilians as crude propaganda against Brexit.
Nothing is too low for these people.
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-deadlock-over-ireland-backstop-37433917.html

Varadkar used the photograph to show how far Ireland (N and S) had come in the peace process. He compared the situation of before the GFA and since.
He used it to show important the GFA is, and that it must not be sacrificed in the pursuit of Brexit.
Wouldn't you agree with him on that? That the GFA must not be risked in the pursuit of Brexit?

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

French

scoundrels

Rampant xenophobia.
You keep leaving your little piles of poo at every opportunity.
It's called scatophilia.

SNP supported Brexit behind closed doors

What makes you think this?

labour manifesto of 1983 had a brexit policy / commitment

Which resulted in a landslide victory for the Tories. So withdrawal from EEC not popular then? Even though they said they would formulate a plan.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Any attempt at the annexation of N.I. wouldn't solve anything, it would only trigger Ulster Nationalism and a separatist movement directed at the Irish republic.
The Irish republic would have the responsibility to police almost 1 million angry unionists.

It wouldn't be annexation, it would be reunification.

Why is your anger directed against Ireland? Did Ireland want Brexit? Did Ireland vote in the referendum? Did Ireland want the NI Protocol?
I suggest you direct your angst in the right direction.
You're verging on the threat of violence again.

 

[durhamplumber]

You keep leaving your little piles of poo at every opportunity.
It's called scatophilia.

I'm not sure whether you've been subjected to typical twisting propaganda of a political party in NI, or you genuinely do not understand the Good Friday Agreement. But you are wrong. The specific requirement has not been formulated:

How would a border poll be held in Northern Ireland?
As part of the Good Friday Agreement, an explicit provision for holding a Northern Ireland border poll was made in UK law. The Northern Ireland Act 1998 states that “if at any time it appears likely to him that a majority of those voting would express a wish that Northern Ireland should cease to be part of the United Kingdom and form part of a united Ireland”, the Secretary of State shall make an Order in Council enabling a border poll.

It is not clear exactly what would satisfy this requirement. The Constitution Unit suggests that a consistent majority in opinion polls, a Catholic majority in a census, a nationalist majority in the Northern Ireland Assembly, or a vote by a majority in the Assembly could all be considered evidence of majority support for a united Ireland. However, the Secretary of State must ultimately decide whether the condition has been met.
https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainers/irish-reunification​

Sorry, Vinty, but you're wrong again. For sure, some legislation requires the support of the majority of the both Unionist and Nationalist factions (not Parties, not communities.). But most legislation is passed on a simple majority.

Most decisions of the Assembly are taken by a simple majority vote. However, certain key decisions such as approval of the budget must have cross-community support. Cross-community support is defined in law as the support of the majority voting, a majority of those designated nationalist voting and a majority of those designated unionist voting.
https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/northern-ireland-assembly#:~:text=The Northern Ireland Assembly is,meets at Parliament Buildings, Belfast.​

Your piles of pooh are huge.It is called Verbose Dazzler scatophilia.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Your piles of pooh are huge.It is called Verbose Dazzler scatophilia.

My apologies for posting comments way above your intellectual level.
I have no intention of sinking to your level. I will take the trouble to explain carefully any issues that you're struggling with. But as soon as you display your intention to keep your mind firmly closed, my patience will be exhausted.
Enjoy your day.

 

[durhamplumber]

My apologies

Accepted...you mistake verbosity with intellectuality...common in the teaching profession.

 

[durhamplumber]

I have no intention of sinking to your level

Nor me to yours.

 

[durhamplumber]

But as soon as you display your intention to keep your mind firmly closed, my patience will be exhausted.

Talk to the hand.

 

[durhamplumber]

I'm not sure whether you've been subjected to typical twisting propaganda of a political party in NI, or you genuinely do not understand the Good Friday Agreement. But you are wrong. The specific requirement has not been formulated:

How would a border poll be held in Northern Ireland?
As part of the Good Friday Agreement, an explicit provision for holding a Northern Ireland border poll was made in UK law. The Northern Ireland Act 1998 states that “if at any time it appears likely to him that a majority of those voting would express a wish that Northern Ireland should cease to be part of the United Kingdom and form part of a united Ireland”, the Secretary of State shall make an Order in Council enabling a border poll.

It is not clear exactly what would satisfy this requirement. The Constitution Unit suggests that a consistent majority in opinion polls, a Catholic majority in a census, a nationalist majority in the Northern Ireland Assembly, or a vote by a majority in the Assembly could all be considered evidence of majority support for a united Ireland. However, the Secretary of State must ultimately decide whether the condition has been met.
https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainers/irish-reunification​

Sorry, Vinty, but you're wrong again. For sure, some legislation requires the support of the majority of the both Unionist and Nationalist factions (not Parties, not communities.). But most legislation is passed on a simple majority.

Most decisions of the Assembly are taken by a simple majority vote. However, certain key decisions such as approval of the budget must have cross-community support. Cross-community support is defined in law as the support of the majority voting, a majority of those designated nationalist voting and a majority of those designated unionist voting.
https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/northern-ireland-assembly#:~:text=The Northern Ireland Assembly is,meets at Parliament Buildings, Belfast.​

Are you colour blind?

 

[ellal]

Any attempt at the annexation of N.I. wouldn't solve anything

But but...

If a referendum were to take place about 'leaving a union', and the result didn't go your way would you STFU?

After all that's what brexiteers are telling remainers to do...

And you obviously don't have a clue as to the meaning of 'annexation'

 

[durhamplumber]

If a referendum were to take place about 'leaving a union', and the result didn't go your way would you STFU

No...we would fekin bleat on for 4 years for another!

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Talk to the hand.

That's exactly what I've been trying to tell you! Although I don't suppose you appreciate the significance of your comment.
It means you want me to talk to your hand because your ears aren't listening, your mind is closed and you refuse to even consider an alternative viewpoint. That's what I've been trying to tell you! But you won't accept it. That's because your ears and your mind is slammed shut.

 

[durhamplumber]

That's exactly what I've been trying to tell you! Although I don't suppose you appreciate the significance of your comment.
It means you want me to talk to your hand because your ears aren't listening, your mind is closed and you refuse to even consider an alternative viewpoint. That's what I've been trying to tell you! But you won't accept it. That's because your ears and your mind is slammed shut.

I do not have a great deal of tolerance with overly verbose people, invariably they are also pompous, arrogant, over bearing, full of their own importance and v very patronising.