Shower fire revisited

Winston. As a matter of interest what exactly is the product you keep posting this from?
It is an own brand oven from B & Q. I can't remember the model number and will not be able to find out until after lockdown.
 
It is an own brand oven from B & Q. I can't remember the model number and will not be able to find out until after lockdown.
Winston.
How about telling the truth for once, even just this one time would be good.
 
Anyway, it’s not that old dog-eared example that we need. It’s ones that you and your best mate on Screwfix forum haven’t shown us. Come on, it can’t be hard. You keep saying that manufacturers instructions are often wrong, so you must have hundreds ready to reveal to the waiting world.
 
Anyway, it’s not that old dog-eared example that we need. It’s ones that you and your best mate on Screwfix forum haven’t shown us. Come on, it can’t be hard. You keep saying that manufacturers instructions are often wrong, so you must have hundreds ready to reveal to the waiting world.
Actually I want to get to the bottom of that particular example, because as always Winston is making things up and the facts he keeps spouting about it are, I suspect, as wrong as everything else he trys to convince himself he knows something about. Even his satelite type work is questionable.
 
Winston.
How about telling the truth for once, even just this one time would be good.
I never lie. That means I always tell the truth.

This is what I truthfully said, "It is an own brand oven from B & Q. I can't remember the model number and will not be able to find out until after lockdown."

I will add that own brand is called Cooke and Lewis.
 
Actually I want to get to the bottom of that particular example, because as always Winston is making things up and the facts he keeps spouting about it are, I suspect, as wrong as everything else he trys to convince himself he knows something about. Even his satelite type work is questionable.
The problem with winston is not that he is incorrect in saying that MIs sometimes are 'wrong' (since they sometimes are!) but, rather, that he keeps on "going on and on about it", to no-one's benefit.

Any written document can (and some sometimes do) contain errors and I have certainly seen some in MIs for electrical items, particularly when they are written in 'Anglo-Chinese'!

Sometimes they are just 'plain wrong'. Off the top of my head, I recall one that got "brown" and "blue" the wrong way around in wiring instructions and another which required a 16A fuse to be put into a "UK plug"! ... and I've seen a good few other examples.

However, there are other cases which are sort-of 'wrong' in that they imply the existence of regulations which do not exist -like saying that extractor fans "MUST" have isolators and/or 3A fuses or that Class II items "MUST NOT" be earthed.

If we come across a case in which MIs clearly are incorrect, we obviously should (must) point that out. However, as above, little/nothing is gained by someone boring everyone else by "going on and on" about the issue in general.

Kind Regards, John
 
Actually I want to get to the bottom of that particular example, because as always Winston is making things up and the facts he keeps spouting about it are, I suspect, as wrong as everything else he trys to convince himself he knows something about. Even his satelite type work is questionable.
NO. I never make things up. The facts are NOT wrong, it is from the instruction manual.
Why do you say (incorrectly) my satellite work is questionable?
 
It is not up to me to reassure people on a forum that what I do is non-questionable.
As you imply, it's entirely your choice - but if you provide no such reassurance (and, particularly if you also continue to repeatedly make a fool of yourself) you should not be surprised if some people continue to regard anything you say or do as being questionable.
 
I never lie. That means I always tell the truth.

This is what I truthfully said, "It is an own brand oven from B & Q. I can't remember the model number and will not be able to find out until after lockdown."

I will add that own brand is called Cooke and Lewis.
Ohhhh... Thanks for the update.
 

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