Electric Car Charging Gov to Invest £Billions

[motorbiking]

A lot of EVs get refuelled while parked at home. It’s really only top ups or supercharging that is needed out and about. The problem comes with people who don’t have off street parking and no way to charge.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

While I fully understand the arguments about more cars needing more charging points, and the vicious circle, we need to remind ourselves that car ownership comes in many different forms, from the retired person who only very occasionally, or even never, does a long journey, to the average trades person who relies heavily on their transport, to a typical commuter who usually commutes less than 10 miles each time, to a typical two car family, etc.
I, for one and I know of many like me, have, and have had for many years, at least two vehicles, one petrol runabout, and one diesel 4X4 for when towing trailers, etc is required.
I'd happily switch to an EV for the runabout.

There are other infrastructure considerations, e.g. ferries, car-carrying trains, etc.

 

[motorbiking]

I suspect this investment deal is linked to the Tesla gigafactory that is to be announced shortly.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

This.

Eventually most parking spaces at services will have chargers. You'll probably have to choose how fast you want to charge, fast for a premium or slower and cheaper.

Services on motorways screw you on fuel prices, but if you plan you can avoid the rip offs. When there's no choice and they have a captive audience, they will squeeze motorists. Imagine the chaos at the services during the mad holiday rush, especially if we're on lockdown number 126.

So invest in shares for services now, and maybe recovery companies who will drag in all the unfortunates who got stuck in the holiday traffic and didn't quite make it to a charger.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

, a full electric car with a 240ish mile range- £37k.

As already said, won't be driving one of these things unless forced to.

And presumably that 240 mile range is when batteries are new and in ideal conditions.

 

[Ihavenojob]

Peugeot e208 Active Premium is £27,225.00 on the road after government grant.
No need to thank me, but I've just saved you £10k

But it's Fr***h, why would I thank you?

 

[SirGalahad]

I suspect this investment deal is linked to the Tesla gigafactory that is to be announced shortly.

A sweetener.

No VIP lane?

 

[SirGalahad]

As already said, won't be driving one of these things unless forced to.

And presumably that 240 mile range is when batteries are new and in ideal conditions.

It's far worse than that. The aspect I don't like about electric cars is all the telemetry they have, the amount of data they collect.

https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/tesla-recording-data-privacy/

It's why we need strong privacy laws. The US has comparatively weak laws and I hope (thats all we have left now) the UK does not water down its current laws.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

But it's Fr***h, why would I thank you?

So were the Exocet missiles, and there was considerable concern about those.
Concorde was built in France and UK, and those were extremely acceptable.

I can only assume you don't buy anything made in France?

 

[Mottie]

It's far worse than that. The aspect I don't like about electric cars is all the telemetry they have, the amount of data they collect.

I take it you don’t use a mobile phone, smart speaker, tablet, laptop or PC then?

 

[motorbiking]

It's far worse than that. The aspect I don't like about electric cars is all the telemetry they have, the amount of data they collect.

https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/tesla-recording-data-privacy/

It's why we need strong privacy laws. The US has comparatively weak laws and I hope (thats all we have left now) the UK does not water down its current laws.

It's an interesting point about videoing bystanders. But its no different than a dash-cam. US Data privacy laws are not weaker, just different. They don't have a catch all GDPR hammer for all jobs, its industry and use case specific, it's also combined with state law. For most consumers (who do not care much about data privacy if the product is free) GDPR is a pain in the A**e

 

[Mottie]

It's an interesting point about videoing bystanders. But its no different than a dash-cam.

Or a Ring doorbell or similar.

 

[motorbiking]

If your doorbell is recording people on your premises then its no problem from a data privacy point of view. Same as CCTV. The issue with the car, is you may be videoing people on public land or worse their own private land.

If your CCTV, doorbell or whatever happens to video your neighbour getting it on in their bedroom, you could even end up in jail. Same applies to the wind blowing their skirt up as they walk past or bending over the boot loading the shopping.

 

[Tigercubrider]

at work every car park that gets refurbished also gets EV points fitted.
I should walk to work but drive. That means my fuel consumption is higher than the manufacturer's intention
Electric vehicles are great for around town or deliveries. Most builder's vans spend 90% of their time as a shed going nowhere and often stay local.

Early motorists suffered the same range anxiety as todays EV users. They bought tins of petrol from Chemist shops.
The garages spread to fill the need..

 

[motorbiking]

Personally I'd like to see electric scooters being treated on the same footing as bicycles. They make sense as personal transport for very short journeys.