Leak from inside the wall

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I have a leak as in photo, the leak is coming from that hole, I cannot see any water coming down from the end of the pan connector. Do I have to rip the wall to see whats happening or I can remove the pan connector and do something... Is it worthy buying a small bullet camera to see inside before I damage the wall? It is a bungalow built in 1976. I get conflicting ideas that it might be cast iron inside or it is not and it is plastic. Any suggestions of the problem?

Water only leaks when you do a long flush, with the short flush it is ok.
 

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The leak is extremely close to the copper pipes so I would suspect them first.

I think you are going to have to take the tiles off. Pry the skirting off first. With a multicutter you might be able to cut a slot or remove a tile enough to look inside, but I think you will end up opening it up.

It looks like the fault is inside a duct formed by boxing in the pipework. If it is plasterboard the water will damage it.

If you have access above, you could look with a torch to see if the water is dripping down from above.

If you have to renew or repair the duct, try to include a ply panel held on with chrome screws so you can access in future.
 
Being worse on the long flush leads me to think it is to do with the soil pipe connection. doesnt matter if it is cast or plastic it needs looking at. Start with removing the lowest tile on that narrow side wall and having a look behind.
 
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Sorry, yes just to confirm, when you use the short flush there is no leak whatsoever, it's only when you use the long flush that the toilet room is getting flooded! Is it worth buying an inspection camera to see inside? I would open it up straight away but I'm scared of leaving the tenants without a toilet. I have called 5 plumbers so far noone wants to get a go at this...
 
It was a blocked drain! I'm surprised nobody picked up on this as I ended up cutting that corner out in vein. We've had a blocked drain last year again as it is a shared drain with the neighbour! I guess next time I will call United Utilities to fix it for free!
 
It was a blocked drain! I'm surprised nobody picked up on this as I ended up cutting that corner out in vein. We've had a blocked drain last year again as it is a shared drain with the neighbour! I guess next time I will call United Utilities to fix it for free!

We are not there, you are. You never mentioned the blockage from before. Why didn't you check the manhole before coming on here. You also didn't mention you were on the ground floor.

Don't have a go at people trying to help you free of charge.

Andy
 
It was a blocked drain! I'm surprised nobody picked up on this as I ended up cutting that corner out in vein. We've had a blocked drain last year again as it is a shared drain with the neighbour! I guess next time I will call United Utilities to fix it for free!

UU will only deal with it free, if it is the shared part which is blocked and the two premises are different addresses (not flats in the same house).
 
@Yanni - You still have a leak though when the drain is blocked it causes the water to back up and your leak then passes water.
So if you have got a hole in the wall now, maybe it's best to try and identify and cure where its leaking.
 
Blocked drain should make the bowl fill up when flushing... Not pi$$ sewage out of a poorly fitted waste! :rolleyes:

Bloody entitled types.
 

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