Another MP stabbed - Sir David Amess in Leigh-on-Sea

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They will have to stop these MP
Type surgery’s

 

[AngleEyes]

Ah, Somalians. I recall many many years ago that Southall near Heathrow took in several hundred Somalians as refugees because they were fleeing the civil war in Somalia. A tribal situation not uncommon in that part of the world.
The local (mainly Asian) community were extremely unhappy because these were a group of people who had no intention of working, no intention of integrating, preferring instead to sit outside cafe's drinking coffee and chewing 'khat', a drug that was legal in this country simply for the reason it has never been on the radar.
Despite the local concern, nothing much came of it because there was little trouble, at least while they were stoned out of their heads chewing khat things were peaceful.
Fast forward a year and the Council started taking in refugees from the opposing tribes, who in turn were seeking refuge from the other tribes.
Basically, we ended up with a civil war in Southall between opposing Somalian tribes. That was interesting.

I think eventually there has to be a realisation that there are 'tribes' who will never integrate into our society, hey ho.

I think your incorrect recollection is referring to this:
"Somalis to blame for crime rise, says MP
Wed 4 Sep 2002 0

A Labour MP was condemned as irresponsible and accused of "stoking the flames of prejudice" after he blamed an increase on street robbery in his constituency on Somali asylum seekers.

Piara Khabra, MP for Ealing Southall, told the Radio 4 Today programme that his Asian constituents had complained that the vast majority of street robberies in the area were being carried out by Somali youths. He also suggested that Asian groups might take vigilante action out of frustration."
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2002/sep/04/race.immigrationpolicy

Coincidentally, that Labour MP was an Indian born immigrant. What a surprise!

 

[fillyboy]

I think your incorrect recollection is referring to this:

You'd be wrong then, the incidents I recall pre-date that.

 

[AngleEyes]

If you knew me, you'd know I don't have a prejudice bone in my body. For me, this is where it breaks down. As SOON as you try to open up a debate on certain things these days, you're immediately shut down as being an 'ist' when more often than not, it's not the case at all.

And for reference, when I state 'them' I'm referring to anyone that endangers law abiding UK citizens, regardless of skin colour, religion, nationality etc.

You are accusing me of labelling you. I only suggested that your comments refer to everyone, because I thought you were in danger of believing that only certain types of prejudices are taught in the home.
Let me make it crystal clear for you, All types of prejudice are taught in the home, not just the ones with which you disagree.
You have again suggested that only certain types of prejudice are taught in the home, with your statement: "And for reference, when I state 'them' I'm referring to anyone that endangers law abiding UK citizens, regardless of skin colour, religion, nationality etc."
Let me reiterate for you: All types of prejudice are taught in the home! Some prejudices are so deep that often people are unaware of harbouring them.

 

[AngleEyes]

You'd be wrong then, the incidents I recall pre-date that.

Please find some reference to these incidents that you refer to, rather than expect us to rely on your memory to be accurate.

 

[transam]

You'd be wrong then, the incidents I recall pre-date that.

yes I recall the incident (s) as well

def prior to 2004

 

[fillyboy]

Please find some reference to these incidents that you refer to, rather than expect us to rely on your memory to be accurate.

I really can't be @rsed.

 

[AngleEyes]

I really can't be @rsed.

I suspected as much.
Tactic number 2, when caught out as fabricating so-called evidence, reply with a "CBA".

 

[AngleEyes]

yes I recall the incident (s) as well

def prior to 2004

It's no good asking you to supply evidence for an invented story, you'll tell us all about Harry Potter, and his magic panda.

 

[fillyboy]

I suspected as much.
Tactic number 2, when caught out as fabricating so-called evidence, reply with a "CBA".

I offered no evidence so no fabrication there, simply recalling a situation that anyone who lived locally to that area will recall. I just can't be @rsed to play your silly games.

 

[transam]

It's no good asking you to supply evidence for an invented story, you'll tell us all about Harry Potter, and his magic panda.

Harry Potter never had a panda

you must have been reading a different book or watching a different film

 

[transam]

It's no good asking you to supply evidence for an invented story, you'll tell us all about Harry Potter, and his magic panda.

I can’t be ar**d

find it yer self it’s on record

 

[Munroast]

Coincidentally, that Labour MP was an Indian born immigrant. What a surprise!

don't see anything wrong with people of Indian heritage, lovely, hard working, law abiding citizens, they work hard and do well - more than welcome.

Sadly in our overly politically correct world people can't deal with the bleeding obvious. up to two thirds of knife crime in the capital (https://fullfact.org/crime/are-majority-youth-knife-offenders-minority-ethnic/) is from one group, but no one is prepared to tackle the problem in fear they are called racists. Very sadly we have now needlessly lost a wonderful MP to such a crime.

 

[AngleEyes]

I offered no evidence so no fabrication there, simply recalling a situation that anyone who lived locally to that area will recall. I just can't be @rsed to play your silly games.

You really mean you can be @rsed to make up some anecdote that justifies your own prejudices, but when asked to supply evidence to provide some support to your anecdote, you suddenly CBA'd
It's labeled as tactic number 2 because it's frequently used by those who fabricate some tale or two.

 

[AngleEyes]

don't see anything wrong with people of Indian heritage, lovely, hard working, law abiding citizens, they work hard and do well - more than welcome.

I wholeheartedly agree.

Sadly in our overly politically correct world people can't deal with the bleeding obvious. up to two thirds of knife crime in the capital (https://fullfact.org/crime/are-majority-youth-knife-offenders-minority-ethnic/) is from one group, but no one is prepared to tackle the problem in fear they are called racists. Very sadly we have now needlessly lost a wonderful MP to such a crime.

But when an immigrant from one group, especially a prominent immigrant, who has some authority, incorrectly blames another group of immigrants for the ills in society, then suspicion of inbuilt prejudices are aroused.
Your link shows that two thirds of knife crime in London, is committed by black and non-white people does not support any nonsensical claim that Somalians are to blame, nor that immigrants are to blame. There are British born black and non-white people in London. Your link makes no reference to the country of origin of the offenders.
We could just as easily prove that the majority of knife crime is committed by young people. Wowee, what a surprise! As if that's a recent phenomenon!
Your link has no reference to the discussion about Somalians, nor immigrants in London, nor any where else. It's pure noise and irrelevant chatter.