Should asylum seekers be allowed to work while their claim is processed

On the question... on balance I think 'no'. Simply because it confuses the issue, "Well he is a hard-working member of the community", or "I have worked had for your country for 18 months and this is how I am treated!" I'm fairly left wing on asylum seekers, but it should remain formal until they are granted
 
On the question... on balance I think 'no'. Simply because it confuses the issue, "Well he is a hard-working member of the community", or "I have worked had for your country for 18 months and this is how I am treated!" I'm fairly left wing on asylum seekers, but it should remain formal until they are granted

Not an issue, if they only work enough to cover the cost of their keep.
 
But they're already over here. We're not importing them.

Yeah, but the ones not working already generally don't want to work, especially doing anything like hard work!
 
Something to ponder.

A migration study in the US which analysed migration of people from Mexico to the US concluded that before the border was erected people would travel from Mexico to work in the US and then return to Mexico when the work season was over. Once the border was put up and made migration harder more people once they came over decided not to go back. The border had unintended consequences.

The point was they never understood the motivation of the Mexicans - they were happy to cross the border work for 6-9 months and then return to their families.
 
Yeah, but the ones not working already generally don't want to work, especially doing anything like hard work!

Then if they would be forced to work soon after arrival, it would kill two birds with one stone - they earn their keep and it acts as a deterrent for them to come here expecting an easy life. Maybe see the inflatables heading south for a change :-)
 
Then if they would be forced to work soon after arrival, it would kill two birds with one stone - they earn their keep and it acts as a deterrent for them to come here expecting an easy life. Maybe see the inflatables heading south for a change :)

Probably will be a bit inhumane. Remember, many are asylum seekers, not economic migrants.

So how do you put them in to work? Separate men from wives, mothers from children, so the adults can work and the kids are held in a holding camp while being processed?

How do you pay them? They won't have bank accounts so PAYE won't work. So do we pay cash? Or withold payment? That would be called slave labour.
 
excellent idea, we can have large camps of them, with a workhouse next door for them so they don't have to travel far, bed and board be sorted out, shouldn't be too expensive bread or rice and water doesn't cost a lot, give them some fruit every now and again.....

worked ok for the Victorians and Nazi's......

being serious, the premice behind it is good, however in execution it's got human rights issues written all over it, and we all know anything government led will end up a shambles..
 
What is a much better idea is to process the applications quicker and get them settled so they are in a position to contribute to society.
 
The best angle to reduce economic migrants is to discourage them financially. Imagine a system where you could come over, apply for asylum, get work for 6 months and then get sent home, just to try again. Probably with all their tax and NI paid back. I read recently that the government is trying to do deals to process claims off-shore. i.e you cross the channel and get shipped to a processing centre in Albania. Now that would probably discourage more than a few.
 
The best angle to reduce economic migrants is to discourage them financially.

Of course.

But this thread is about asylum seekers. That's often families, lone children, teens etc. that are vulnerable, afraid, orphaned, and not in a position to work anyway.

But ... discourage them financially - when you have nothing, and have had to dodge bullets, bombs and visits from the secret police, just having nothing is an improvement.
 
The best angle to reduce economic migrants is to discourage them financially. Imagine a system where you could come over, apply for asylum, get work for 6 months and then get sent home, just to try again. Probably with all their tax and NI paid back. I read recently that the government is trying to do deals to process claims off-shore. i.e you cross the channel and get shipped to a processing centre in Albania. Now that would probably discourage more than a few.
Albania is one such suggestion from UK government, but Albania deny categorically that there is any discussion, there hasn't been any discussion, and there isn't even a request for any discussion from UK about such a plan.
 
Probably will be a bit inhumane. Remember, many are asylum seekers, not economic migrants.

So how do you put them in to work? Separate men from wives, mothers from children, so the adults can work and the kids are held in a holding camp while being processed?

How do you pay them? They won't have bank accounts so PAYE won't work. So do we pay cash? Or withold payment? That would be called slave labour.

They do enough so as to be not too much of a burden on the system whilst at the same time, picking up a smattering of English. Has to be better than them just being kept, sat around doing nothing at all. I don't understand the slave labour comment, most of us do or did work, in order to live.
 
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