Supporting Ukraine

[The Samaritan]

Vinty and Putin are unconcerned by the deaths.

where did that poster say that. I wont's ask you to post because the poster did not say that. To me many here

are easily led by western media when it suits them but when the western media prints something they don't like then they attack the poster.

Looks to me those ranting against compromises re ceasefire want the deaths to go on and on to a possible nuke war

 

[JohnD]

compromises

compromise with an enemy that has invaded your country is a difficult concept.

"I want to invade your country and I want to seize control of all of it"

"And I don't want you to invade my country"

"All right then, I'll invade and annexe half of it."

Or, if you prefer:

"Let's kill 6 million Jews"

"No, lets not kill any"

"We'll compromise. 3 million it is."

Is that acceptabe to you?

 

[The Samaritan]

compromise with an enemy that has invaded your country is a difficult concept.

"I want to invade your country and I want to seize control of all of it"

"And I don't want you to invade my country"

"All right then, I'll invade and annexe half of it."

Or, if you prefer:

"Let's kill 6 million Jews"

"No, lets not kill any"

"We'll compromise. 3 million it is."

Is that acceptabe to you?

Stop chatting murderous nonsense. You are wanting them to fight to the death. Dont be a fool mate recognise the fact that putin is not giving up crimea and donbas, you know that yet you post that rubbish

Looks like you are wanting WW3

 

[JohnD]

You are wanting them to fight to the death... you are wanting WW3

no, I have given examples to show that your talk of "compromise" is advocating surrender, and showing why "compromise" with an attacker is not a solution.

If you are British or European you should know very well that attempted appeasement of an invader does not make him go away.

 

[IT Minion]

I would concede that Putin has a point with nato forces right on his actual border ?

let’s face it if Canada ( for example ) had Russian based on there border with the US

I doubt the yanks would be amused

after all they almost started world war 3 over missiles in Cuba 90 miles from there border

how ever all of this alters nothing in the here and now

we are where we are

If there were any he'd have some grounds for discomfort. But since there aren't, he doesn't.

 

[IT Minion]

.

Leave the rest of the world out of it.
Ukraine is a pawn in a power struggle between 2 white imperialist power blocs.
Western Europe and America comprises of around 10% of the global population, Russia is a smaller percentage.

I imagine people in other countries far away wonder what this war in Europe has to do with them.

Tell that to Malaysia.

 

[Notch7]

are easily led by western media when it suits them but when the western media prints something they don't like then they attack the poster

You are easily led - you believe any old sh1t written in the Daily Mail.


But when I post this:

How Russia weaponizes the language issue in Ukraine
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blo...is-the-only-winner-of-ukraines-language-wars/


You have no answer

 

[Notch7]

Stop chatting murderous nonsense. You are wanting them to fight to the death. Dont be a fool mate recognise the fact that putin is not giving up crimea and donbas, you know that yet you post that rubbish

Looks like you are wanting WW3

How Russia weaponizes the language issue in Ukraine


https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blo...is-the-only-winner-of-ukraines-language-wars/

 

[Odds]

I'm concerned America is trying to find a back door into the conflict by the idea of supplying aircraft for Ukrainian pilots.
This tactic will play into Putin's hands with his claim of NATO interference in Ukraine and become a tool for Russian propaganda to back up claims of NATO aggression.
There's no easy way to stop this war, which Russia will likely win; but i think they will lose the peace. It may take years but Ukranians have a taste for independence that will not easily be taken away by a Russian conquest of their country.

 

[The Samaritan]

I'm concerned America is trying to find a back door into the conflict by the idea of supplying aircraft for Ukrainian pilots.
This tactic will play into Putin's hands with his claim of NATO interference in Ukraine and become a tool for Russian propaganda to back up claims of NATO aggression.
There's no easy way to stop this war, which Russia will likely win; but i think they will lose the peace. It may take years but Ukranians have a taste for independence that will not easily be taken away by a Russian conquest of their country.

Good post, intially it was Poland and I feared the same

What happend to Ukraines jets, close to a hundred really modern front line fighter/bomber jets.
If anyone was to give them jest NOTE they would have to be MIGS/SU type as those are the ones they flew so the usa, don't think so. Then they need to protect them where will that be

 

[jeds]

Most people know that Russia can't be beaten militarily. They can be hurt and delayed, but not beaten. Just taking a sit-back view of this you have to wonder what on Earth is going through Putin's mind. In a week and a bit he has destroyed large parts of Ukraine, destroyed the lives of millions of Ukraine people, destroyed the economy and prospects of his own country and of his own people for years to come and in the process achieved what exactly? When Russia finally takes control of the pile of rubble what will he/they do then? It's madness, there's no other word for it, but militarily it can't be stopped. The best hope is that Russia suffers so badly in its economy and World stage that Putin either retires or somebody retires him. Next step has to be to cut off the oil and gas income.

 

[Vinty]

I'm concerned America is trying to find a back door into the conflict by the idea of supplying aircraft for Ukrainian pilots.
This tactic will play into Putin's hands with his claim of NATO interference in Ukraine and become a tool for Russian propaganda to back up claims of NATO aggression.
There's no easy way to stop this war, which Russia will likely win; but i think they will lose the peace. It may take years but Ukranians have a taste for independence that will not easily be taken away by a Russian conquest of their country.

The Americans are prepared to fight to the last drop of Ukranian blood.

 

[Vinty]

Next step has to be to cut off the oil and gas income

That is never going to happen.
These sanctions don't work as a tool for regime change.
They never have worked, we now have the crazy situation where the Americans are going to Venezuela to ask them to pump more oil to make up any possible shortfall from Russia.
Venezuela has been under an oil embargo from America because they refused to depose their president.
Meanwhile in the UK oil prices are going through the roof, according to the BBC, fuel poverty will double in the UK this year.
The only people who suffer from sanctions are poor and vulnerable people everywhere.

 

[JohnD]

That is never going to happen.

why don't you just post the link to Vlad's page and cut out the middleman?

 

[The Samaritan]

So you think think that

why don't you just post the link to Vlad's page and cut out the middleman?

More utter nonesense.