Reckon I can fit 20 yard skips-worth of waste in 6 van loads?

[Dace]

Was hoping to shift mostly plastering/rendering crap in 6 loads with a 3 metre-long van? (closed type)
Yeah weird question I guess lol.

 

[Deleted member 174758]

Which particular piece of countryside were you planning to despoil?

No idea if you could - it invariably depends on how much air (unused space) there is in your skip. I'd be wary of two things though - plasterboard is pretty heavy (dense), and if you do happen to get stopped by the police in conjunction with the Environment Agency you might face a hefty fine for transporting commercial waste without a licence.

There's a weighbridge up on the M62 not that far away from us where vehicles are regularly pulled off for inspection - normally just the police and VoSA, but I've been inspected by the above plus a combination of some of DEFRA, HMRC Customs, DWP and the EA there at various times in the past (3 or 4 stops over a couple of decades, they don't like "antique" vans - happily no fines, but I know others who have been pulled and fined).

 

[Notch7]

You need a waste carriers licence

and you won’t be able to take it to a council tip

 

[Deleted member 174758]

...and you won’t be able to take it to a council tip

Well you might - if the vehicle is registered with the council. That said my local authority demand a copy of your Waste Carriers Licence before they will issue a permit forcthe vehicle. And then they charge so much that a skip, even a plasterboard skip, doesn't seem quite such a bad idea

And then they wonder why there is a fly tipping problem...

BTW OP, assuming you can get 3 cubic metres of plasterboard into a van load, you might well overload the van - a solid cubic metre of PB weighs over a tonne. How compact is your waste and what is the load capacity of your van? For that matter, how do you tell if you are overloaded?

 

[Notch7]

Well you might - if the vehicle is registered with the council. That said my local authority demand a copy of your Waste Carriers Licence before they will issue a permit forcthe vehicle. And then they charge so much that a skip, even a plasterboard skip, doesn't seem quite such a bad idea

And then they wonder why there is a fly tipping problem...

Yeah that’s true, I know around by me, they just won’t let tradesmen in - maybe it’s if they aren’t registered.

and they are a bit iffy on plasterboard - when I was doing site jobs, the skip company would supply a bulk bag to put plasterboard in, which we stuck on top of the skip. They go mad if you put in the skip.

 

[tell80]

Notch7,
The custom bag supplied for p/b is something that i'd never heard of, and its a good practice - thanks for that useful heads up.
We have to, no matter the amount, use the designated p/b skip.

 

[Dace]

I am 100% allowed to take to my tip. I am just limited to number of visits and van size so am trying to figuire out whether its worth me doing it myself or man in van hire..

There is no skip, this was an estimate of waste amount by renderers.

 

[Dace]

Well you might - if the vehicle is registered with the council. That said my local authority demand a copy of your Waste Carriers Licence before they will issue a permit forcthe vehicle. And then they charge so much that a skip, even a plasterboard skip, doesn't seem quite such a bad idea

And then they wonder why there is a fly tipping problem...

BTW OP, assuming you can get 3 cubic metres of plasterboard into a van load, you might well overload the van - a solid cubic metre of PB weighs over a tonne. How compact is your waste and what is the load capacity of your van? For that matter, how do you tell if you are overloaded?

I dont even dirve, know nothing about vehicle basics. Was considering paying a mate and hiring a van and shifting it myself. Because people are REALLY taking the **** with prices atm. May seem to be too many variables, and yes there is a weight limit on a citizens van load anyway.
Most of the waste is hardcore from old render though.

 

[Deleted member 174758]

Was considering paying a mate and hiring a van and shifting it myself. Because people are REALLY taking the **** with prices atm. May seem to be too many variables, and yes there is a weight limit on a citizens van load anyway.
Most of the waste is hardcore from old render though.

I agree that waste disposal prices are at an all time high, but for decades we have just been throwing stuff into holes in the ground without any consideration of the environmental impact - hence the green taxes - but if your mate will be carrying stuff for you without a licencem to do so, then that is an offence, meaning that if he is caught he could be fined or even get his van impounded. Only heard of it happening a couple of times, but it isn't unknown. It's one of the reasons why, when I was doing kitchens regularly, ten plus years ago, I used to give the customer the choice of paying for a hippo bag/skip or disposing of the old units and building waste themselves. Even back then the cost of EA registration, plus the time, cost and hassle of having to register with no less than 7 local authorities within my nominal 25 mile work radius made simply unviable to transport anything to a tip, whilst like many tradesmen I equally had nowhere to permanently site a skip of my own. I think all this has encouraged rather than discouraged fly tipping

 

[gonch69]

Depends where you are I I've just took 25 black bags of plasterboard has to be bagged as they charge per bag £2 same for rubble so if it's you're own waste from home it's d I y waste

 

[Deleted member 174758]

It's the van thing, though. Turn up at the tip with a van or a pick-up and they'll weigh you and charge you, Turn up in a big 4 x 4 with a 1 tonne trailer on the back and they won't, Might explain why most of the local builders have 4 x 4s these days...

 

[foxhole]

Grab lorry ?

 

[gonch69]

Rev3 you have to book car or van in timed slots so no problem with vans as long as you're not in everyday

 

[Dace]

I agree that waste disposal prices are at an all time high, but for decades we have just been throwing stuff into holes in the ground without any consideration of the environmental impact - hence the green taxes - but if your mate will be carrying stuff for you without a licencem to do so, then that is an offence, meaning that if he is caught he could be fined or even get his van impounded. Only heard of it happening a couple of times, but it isn't unknown. It's one of the reasons why, when I was doing kitchens regularly, ten plus years ago, I used to give the customer the choice of paying for a hippo bag/skip or disposing of the old units and building waste themselves. Even back then the cost of EA registration, plus the time, cost and hassle of having to register with no less than 7 local authorities within my nominal 25 mile work radius made simply unviable to transport anything to a tip, whilst like many tradesmen I equally had nowhere to permanently site a skip of my own. I think all this has encouraged rather than discouraged fly tipping

My mate doesnt need a license, im just paying him to drive and hiring the van myself. Neither of us would be part of a business, its all diy waste.
However there is a 3.5 tonne limit per load and no idea if I can do it in 6 loads. If I cant, is a pallava and may as well use man in van.

Grab lorry ?

They wouldnt use for open rubble sacks sadly.

 

[foxhole]

My mate doesnt need a license, im just paying him to drive and hiring the van myself. Neither of us would be part of a business, its all diy waste.
However there is a 3.5 tonne limit per load and no idea if I can do it in 6 loads. If I cant, is a pallava and may as well use man in van.


They wouldnt use for open rubble sacks sadly.

Grab lorries can carry a variety of materials, including: Soil

• Muck
• Green waste: flower cuttings, grass, hedge trimmings
• General rubbish
• Aggregates, concrete and topsoil