Liz Truss Said

They’re nearly as forward thinking as us, too. (y)


Blimey, look who's 35th in that list! They should be nearer the top on the grounds that they refused Ellals application for refugee status. :ROFLMAO:
 
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They’re nearly as forward thinking as us, too. (y)


Blimey, look who's 35th in that list! They should be nearer the top on the grounds that they refused Ellals application for refugee status. :ROFLMAO:
Was that when we were in the EU? o_O
 
She did a lot of good but also, unintentionally, a lot of bad. Nobody else was good enough at the time, and nobody has been since. Surely if she were around now she would see the problems and bring everything back to us.
Your living in la la land. She was extremely pleased that Nisan built a factory here. That is the sort of thing that she wanted to happen and tried to set the country up to suite. This is still an objective if you listen to Boris and even Truss now. There has been some success but take one instance of what can happen. Can't remember what they were making but one day a group turned up with video cameras. Filmed everything going on. Shut the place and moved the lot elsewhere. Add competitive buy outs and and other factors and work moves elsewhere.

Another instance, Pfizer. They had a decent sized research facility here. It had been productive. It was shut. There can be a variaty of reasons for this sort of thing to happen. I'd hazard a guess that it related to the building they were in. Time for a new facility some where in Europe. They decided it wont be in the UK. This happened to the factory I was working in when I retired. What was said. We have looked at getting out of Germany and it's too expensive so the German end got a brand new factory. What happened at this end - the land was sold first. Then the place was closed, factory knocked down and replaced with a frozen goods warehouse. The previous occupants of the factory produced lower end medical stuff. That work just went. I could say a fair bit more about the work I was doing there and how that came about. It relates to a much larger business just getting shut of everything. A cash rich USA company bought up the work area and stuck us in another factory they owned to develop a new product. There was also some production facilities there for an earlier product but rather small scale. Later they bought the above factory and some extremely expensive gear that was quickly switched to lease hire. £millions worth. It started selling. Margins were high so quickly went self financing. Later the USA company took a look at it and decided to sell the business and made millions from that. I thought that was sad feeling I knew why they decided to sell. However the German aspect may have still cropped up anyway.
 
What is the German welfare state like? Is it as generous and indiscriminate as ours?
Yes. The health service is better despite taking many times more immigrants than we do (both as a percentage of population and in absolute numbers) and pensions are higher, but then higher earners in Germany expect to pay a larger percentage of their wage in taxes, the state has clamped down on tax exiles (especially on "pseudo partnerships" like the chartered accountancy practices in the UK), offshore shell companies, etc. Overall, though, Germans have a better standard of living, even after paying higher taxes than we do. AFAIK the same is true of a lot of other high taxation/high income economies

But if the British worker is apathetic, why do you think he would be? Poorly rewarded and poorly led ? As he watches the top bosses getting more and more reward off his work ?
Indeed. One of the biggest differences is how the British "management class" expects to live and what they believe they are worth these days. Go back to the mid-1970s and if you went into a small to medium-sized firm (say 20 to 50 employees) and you'd likely find that the production workers were being paid a reasonable amount whilst the owner/manager took a wage that allowed him to drive a 2 litre Cortina or maybe a Granada and he typically lived in a semi or a small detached house. These days the guy at the top of such a firm would more typically drive a Range-Rover or a sports car of some description and live in a far grander house whilst paying as many of his employees as he can the legal minimum wage. Small business owners aren't all like that, but far too many of them are
 
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A race to the bottom in wages and conditions won't solve Britains problems.
The Asian countries have cornered that market.
It is predicted that China will overtake America as the worlds largest economy, India has already overtaken Britain as the 5th largest economy.
What Britain and the west has that these these Asian countries dont have, is the ability to innovate and create.
You can have 10 blokes with shovels digging a hole but if a competiter decides to invest in a mechanical digger, then his productivity will be higher with less physical labour.
Britain needs to invest in a well educated and well paid workforce to keep ahead of the competition.
 
You can have 10 blokes with shovels digging a hole but if a competiter decides to invest in a mechanical digger, then his productivity will be higher with less physical labour.
I said almost exactly the same thing a couple of pages ago ;)
 
Liz (I’m bankrolled by BP) Truss,

says: “I won’t tax energy companies on excess profits, I want the public to pay”

PS: is that the same Liz Truss that worked for Shell……goodness me, it jolly well is.
 
Britain needs to invest in a well educated and well paid workforce to keep ahead of the competition

Britain needs to get away from the privatised university model.

This country needs to massively invest in vocational training and grants should be given to the industries and skills we need and want to grow, like nursing, like engineering, like renewables, like robotics, like fintech.

And we should have higher level and better training in construction.
 
Britain needs to invest in a well educated and well paid workforce

I would like to see a professional qualification for builders.

this country has tens of thousands of builders, you those that build extensions etc.

If they started out with proper professional qualifications, on how to run a professional business, with really good project management skills, far More would succeed instead of going bust, or letting clients down through poor management.
 
Liz (I’m bankrolled by BP) Truss,

says: “I won’t tax energy companies on excess profits, I want the public to pay”

PS: is that the same Liz Truss that worked for Shell……goodness me, it jolly well is.
It's called a "Truss Tax". She's a modern day Robin Hood, taking from the poor and giving to the rich. A robbing b'stard, if you like
 
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