Cable for 32a / 6.3KW double oven

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Wrong. Adding a job will not affect the cable size. Cable size is decided by the MCB rating.

Winston1 is once again posting poor information / advice

Adding a hob ( or job ? ) may require an MCB with a higher current rating. The higher rated MCB may require a higher rated cable.
 
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That's extremely unlikely.


People are so used to arguing with Winston that they now also do it when he is right.

Post-truth politics enter the electrical world.
 
I am switching to an electric hob but planning to have that on a separate circuit.
 
People are so used to arguing with Winston that they now also do it when he is right.

He stated that adding a hob will not affect the cable size.

Adding a hob onto the existing cable may not be possible if the current rating and voltage drop of the existing cable would be exceeded by the combined loads of oven and hob. What happens then ?
 
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So - you are saying that a 32A circuit must always be installed with 6mm² cable.

No I am not..

What I am saying is that if there is a foreseeable possibility that the circuit will need at sometime to be upgraded to 45 Amp ( by adding the load of an electric hob ) then installing a 6mm² cable would be sensible planning ahead.
 
No I am not..
Ok.

What I am saying is that if there is a foreseeable possibility that the circuit will need at sometime to be upgraded to 45 Amp ( by adding the load of an electric hob )
There isn't. It would have to be more than 19kW.

then installing a 6mm² cable would be sensible planning ahead.
6mm² was not traditionally used for sensible planning ahead; it was used because of the 30A BS3036 rewireable fuse requiring it.
 
Yes. 6mm². That gives you a margin should you decide to add a hob, for instance, in the future.
As I wrote in my recent 'afterthought', that really depends upon installation method and any de-rating factors.

If one has 4mm² T+E installed by Method C and with no de-rating factors (hence CCC=32A) protected by a 32A MCB/RCBO, then, using the standard diversity calculation for cooking appliances, that would be good for a cooking appliance load up to 83.3 A (about 19.2 kW at 230V) - far more than any credible domestic cooker, either now in the future.

Kind Regards, John
 
I am switching to an electric hob but planning to have that on a separate circuit.
OK but no need for a separate circuit. As has been proven above it can go on the same circuit as the oven using 4mm2 cable and a 32 a MCB.
 
If the op has an existing “cooker circuit” then a second circuit may not be necessary.
Sometimes the layout of the appliances may mean that separate circuits are a better option.
 
Hi all, would a 32amp DP switch be suitable for the oven I have listed here? Also do I need to then wire the DP switch to an unswitched cooker connection unit? Or can I wire the oven to the DP switch?
 
Hi all, would a 32amp DP switch be suitable for the oven I have listed here? Also do I need to then wire the DP switch to an unswitched cooker connection unit? Or can I wire the oven to the DP switch?
I don't think DP switches come in 32 amp rating so you would use a 45 amp one. Get one without a neon as neons go black and waste around £25 of electricity a year. You can wire the oven straight to the switch if you like but most people like a connection unit.
 
However, having just seen secure's post, I am reminded of another issue. 4mm² T+E is only OK on a 32A MCB if it is Method C, with no de-rating factors. If it's any other installation method and/or there are any de-rating factors, then one would have to use a lower-rated MCB. One might be lucky enough to find a 25A one for one's CU, but it would probably would often have to be 20A - and that could be too low for the cooker.

Kind Regards, John
That is wrong. The MCB is sized in relation to the load and does not change.
 

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