At least you can rely on Starmer to stick to his pledge.

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Doesn’t sound much of a solution to me. And then?
Have a ratings league where those that display forthrightness and tell the least lies and show the least greed and diligently tend to their constituents are championed and displayed for all to see. Pay them accordingly.

I also think that lobbying ought to be allowed but with strict governance.
 
I don't have a problem with funding University for people as long as they choose subjects where they will have a realistic chance of paying it back in taxes. I'm not so keen to fund someone's 3 year stint to self enlightenment. If they want to learn for pleasure, they can read a book.

Studying PPE and become a Tory MP and then handing out contracts like confetti to their mates would fulfull your criteria but then shows just how stupid your criteria is.
 
Starmer was talking about this caper this morning on the today prog

Looks like tuition fee policy is down the toilet

Nationalising water on the back burner

Seemed pretty straight / candid about the caper
 
What is the reality about tuition fees?

I mean student loans are a Ponzi scheme arent they -many students will never pay them off

A graduate on a salary of say £27k might only pay £25 a month -thats not gonna pay off a £50k debt after 40 years of working unless there is a serious increase in salary.
The reality is that there is a percentage point whereby if there are more people than that percentage point not paying back the loan then it would be cheaper not to charge tuition fees in the first place...

It used to be 46%, but that was breached...

So the government simply changed the terms/length of the loan to in theory raise that percentage point...

And a major part of the con is that student debt is counted as an 'asset'!

But then UK governments have shunned the European social model, and care not for it's peoples (or the country's) futures...

Except of course as is always the case, making sure that a few get to make money out of what should be a free public service.

Strange how most EU countries charge nothing or very little when it comes to a University education and they still do very well...

Note that whereas previously UK students when in the EU paid the same local rates, now they have often have to pay far more!

For example here is simple image for those simple brexiteer folks...

(Thankfully all our children will have no student debt whatsoever :))

tuition.jpg
 
The reality is that there is a percentage point whereby if there are more people than that percentage point not paying back the loan then it would be cheaper not to charge tuition fees in the first place...

It used to be 46%, but that was breached...

So the government simply changed the terms/length of the loan to in theory raise that percentage point...

And a major part of the con is that student debt is counted as an 'asset'!

But then UK governments have shunned the European social model, and care not for it's peoples (or the country's) futures...

Except of course as is always the case, making sure that a few get to make money out of what should be a free public service.

Strange how most EU countries charge nothing or very little when it comes to a University education and they still do very well...

Note that whereas previously UK students when in the EU paid the same local rates, now they have often have to pay far more!

For example here is simple image for those simple brexiteer folks...

(Thankfully all our children will have no student debt whatsoever :))

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When you were a student, did you wear a beret and have that picture of Che Guevara on your bedroom wall?
 
What is the reality about tuition fees?

I mean student loans are a Ponzi scheme arent they -many students will never pay them off

A graduate on a salary of say £27k might only pay £25 a month -thats not gonna pay off a £50k debt after 40 years of working unless there is a serious increase in salary.
It creates a relaxed attitude to high levels of debt. It also limits people's ambition to earn their potential.

"I've got 30k of student loan, so what's another 20k on a car".
"If I go for the promotion, I will just have to pay more off".
 
diligently tend to their constituents are championed and displayed for all to see
Just like Boris did when he carried out the result of the referendum. At least we agree on something. (y)

Or do you mean when they tend to their constituents and only champion it if it coincides with your beliefs regardless of whether it’s a majority of said constituents wishes?
 
Just like Boris did when he carried out the result of the referendum. At least we agree on something. (y)

Or do you mean when they tend to their constituents and only champion it if it coincides with your beliefs regardless of whether it’s a majority of said constituents wishes?
Heathrow would be more relevant.


The newly elected MP stated: “John McDonnell, yes John, I will join you, I will lie down with you in front of those bulldozers and stop the construction of that third runway.”
Mr Johnson, who as London mayor had supported an air-hub in the Thames estuary dubbed “Boris Island”, insisted that expansion at Gatwick could boost the economy with less environmental damage than the Heathrow initiative.
 
It creates a relaxed attitude to high levels of debt. It also limits people's ambition to earn their potential.

"I've got 30k of student loan, so what's another 20k on a car".
"If I go for the promotion, I will just have to pay more off".
Training the vast majority to be in debt for life is the plan...

'You will own nothing but be happy' is I believe the goal of the ruling elite!
 
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