Ukraine counter offensive

[JohnD]

Everything. The panzers are on the russian steppes again.

You don't know where the Russian Steppes are, do you?

Some redundant tanks are in Ukraine. A few of them are British.

Why are you falsely pretending that Western Europe has invaded Russia?

Is it because you are barmy?

Or is it because you are a liar?

Or both?

 

[Odds]

Germany puts its troops in the line of fire if Putin attacks NATO

Berlin is moving with unaccustomed speed to station a new armored tank brigade in a Lithuanian area strategists see as being at risk of a Russian attack.

www.politico.eu

from the link:

Pistorious said a unit like the one being sent to Lithuania — called Panzerbrigade 42 — costs between €25 million and €30 million a month to maintain in Germany. The first elements will deploy next year and the full brigade is supposed to be in place by 2027.
For now, the Bundeswehr can rely at least in part on a one-off €100 billion special fund to supplement the regular defense budget. Still, Kiesewetter said he's worried about the money "running dry" sooner than anticipated because of inflation eating into the fund.
"We will have to clarify from 2027, when the special fund has been used up, how the 2 percent [NATO spending target] will be achieved," Pistorius said. "Sustainability is the decisive factor if we want to remain capable of deterrence and defense in a few years' time, which we must be."

JohnD is quite happy to throw more money into standing still while our economy goes backwards.

 

[JohnD]

JohnD is quite happy to throw more money into standing still while our economy goes backwards.

A made-up slur by odds.

 

[Odds]

A made-up slur by odds.

Are you sure, Captain Cough-up?

 

[JohnD]

Are you sure, Captain Cough-up?

Deranged ramblings.

 

[Odds]

Deranged ramblings.

Apparently, you've lost track of the thread, Theseus.

 

[JohnD]

tanks are in Ukraine.

Perfectly on topic.

 

[JohnD]

(photo of German tanks, in German livery, being operated by the German army, on exercise in Germany)

 

[JohnD]

The Germans were in discussion the other day about what if Putin sent his tanks into Germany what could we do, the answer came back sweet fa.

It's lucky he has so few left.

 

[Notch7]

The Germans were in discussion the other day about what if Putin sent his tanks into Germany what could we do, the answer came back sweet fa.

Germany is a NATO country

if Putin tried he would be annihilated swiftly

but Putin wont try invading any NATO country, he might be mad but he isnt totally stupid

 

[Notch7]

Waffle from Galahad a horn smoker

Woof Woof

what he said is all correct

 

[IT Minion]

Germany is a NATO country

if Putin tried he would be annihilated swiftly

but Putin wont try invading any NATO country, he might be mad but he isnt totally stupid

If there's one thing that the Invasion of Ukraine has shown is how much NATO kit outmatches it's equivalent Russian versions.

Russia will not pick a direct fight with NATO.

 

[gant]

Germany is a NATO country

if Putin tried he would be annihilated swiftly

but Putin wont try invading any NATO country, he might be mad but he isnt totally stupid

I'll go to foot of our stairs you don't say.
Never thought the Germans were waxing lyrical that they thank their lucky stars they have NATO to fall back on.
Perhaps they might stump up a bit more to fund it.

 

[fillyboy]

he might be mad but he isnt totally stupid

 

[IT Minion]

Germany spends about as much as we do on defense. It's a lower % of GDP but since their economy is 30% bigger it works out at more or less the same.