Donald Trump will make the world a safer place

He is widely credited with forcing a deal for the Gaza war, did you miss ALL the news?
Has it been signed yet or even agreed on in cabinet? I suspect at most there will be a prisoner/hostage swap then business as usual
 
He hopes to revive the manufacturing hub in his own country.

Do you think US workers (and voters) will accept pay and conditions to match those in China?

How much above world market prices will his tariffs push up costs to US business and consumers? Will they like that?
 
So Fillyboy, gasboi, Sunshine, Nwgs2 all think Trump will make the world safer…..

The January 6 Attack on the U.S. Capitol​

The heavily armed, Trump-incited mob attack of Jan. 6, 2021, was an attack not just on the U.S. Capitol building, but also on democracy and the rule of law


Safer eh :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
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Yes, Starmer trying to rush it as he knows Trump will be anti. I believe sleepy Joe isn't too worried about the giveaway. Not sure if 100% accurate, but isn't the holdup caused by Mauritius demanding £90,000,000 a year from us AND the islands. The cock will probably throw in the crown jewels too! :rolleyes:

Once again, in fulfilling their self hating dogma, Labour are going to upset the ones who could be a powerful ally. At the same time risking a militarily important and strategic asset. But at least Starmer thinks he'll look like a decent bloke on the world stage. When in reality he just looks a complete dick.
 
So Fillyboy, gasboi, Sunshine, Nwgs2 all think Trump will make the world safer…..

The January 6 Attack on the U.S. Capitol​

The heavily armed, Trump-incited mob attack of Jan. 6, 2021, was an attack not just on the U.S. Capitol building, but also on democracy and the rule of law


Safer eh :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
comedy gold try actually looking into what was said who asked for the national guard who refused it . Who actually got killed and by whom and the part the FBI couple of dozen assets played in it .
Oh yeah and lets not forget he was impeached for it and found innocent
 
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Trump's shameful capitulation to Vladimir Putin is part of a bigger (and more dangerous) pattern​

The travesty in Helsinki is not the end of the story. It is closer to the beginning


Trump in power means Putin is far more dangerous
 
comedy gold try actually looking into what was said who asked for the national guard who refused it . Who actually got killed and by whom and the part the FBI couple of dozen assets played in it .
Oh yeah and lets not forget he was impeached for it and found innocent
Oh yh comedy gold all right
 

Trump's shameful capitulation to Vladimir Putin is part of a bigger (and more dangerous) pattern​

The travesty in Helsinki is not the end of the story. It is closer to the beginning


Trump in power means Putin is far more dangerous
Remind us what Putin did between 2017 and 2021
 
Don't disagree with a lot of that, but the magic money tree does exist, its called tax. A few years ago it was even more magical, when it went by the name of furlough. Plenty of takers then, and that is a big part of the long term black hole we face, well beyond the life of this and future parliaments.
NO sorry disagree, myself and many others pay over 50p in the pound to fund freeloaders other countries everything but us, never have i paid so much tax we collectively and never before are our services so sh't ok that's fine but when i want to pay for my own private health care dont tax me on that too and call it a benefit in kind, when all my company is doing is paying for me to stay healthy because the NHS would have happily let me die. The whole system is fcked which is based on let us take all that money off you and manage your personal wellbeing in a pot collectively which in turn is so poorly mismanaged by a 'government' more interested in back scratching to stay in power and civil servants who mostly don't give a flying ****..
Let me have that money, look after the pennies and the pounds look after themselves is what has been instilled into me. That doesn't happen with a civil bunch who don't care about your money and especially the 'rich' ones. No i want to ensure my family and people around me are well looked after not anyone entering our hospitals from anywhere in the world, our country from anywhere in the world and any other fcker who sees us as an easy system to exploit in welfare etc. We've proved it already with the recent gang rape scandal, we are too afraid to confront matters that matter.

No im not a racist, love everyone the same for any person that does good i do good back in shovels.
 
NO sorry disagree, myself and many others pay over 50p in the pound to fund freeloaders other countries everything but us, never have i paid so much tax we collectively and never before are our services so sh't ok that's fine but when i want to pay for my own private health care dont tax me on that too and call it a benefit in kind, when all my company is doing is paying for me to stay healthy because the NHS would have happily let me die. The whole system is fcked which is based on let us take all that money off you and manage your personal wellbeing in a pot collectively which in turn is so poorly mismanaged by a 'government' more interested in back scratching to stay in power and civil servants who mostly don't give a flying ****..
Let me have that money, look after the pennies and the pounds look after themselves is what has been instilled into me. That doesn't happen with a civil bunch who don't care about your money and especially the 'rich' ones. No i want to ensure my family and people around me are well looked after not anyone entering our hospitals from anywhere in the world, our country from anywhere in the world and any other fcker who sees us as an easy system to exploit in welfare etc. We've proved it already with the recent gang rape scandal, we are too afraid to confront matters that matter.

No im not a racist, love everyone the same for any person that does good i do good back in shovels.
Too much credit leaving people servicing debt fuelling house price increases is a factor. Unnecessary wars (Irack cost several trillion), furlough, the banking crisis. All these mean huge tax rises. But as a comparator we still pay less than european countries, who have better health care and other public services than us.

You have a go at civil servants but what's the difference between a civil servant writing policies all day and a plumber overcharging for 3 or 4 hours work a day. Post covid people seem to want to work shorter hours across the board.
 
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I don't think it is sensible to blame the relatively small number of illegal immigrants. There is a systemic problem across all of the West where people expect more from the state than the government takes in taxes, even with historically high tax rates. This is not just a UK problem. The only way to get elected now is to lie about tax and spend. Is the underlying cause that we have simply spent too much on the previous generation. I don't know. Something is badly wrong and I cannot see a way out. But I am not going to start turning on other groups.
 
Funny how Trump is like, Trumpet. Lots of noise, little style when hooting by itself.

If we've learned one thing from Trump's first 4 years as president, it's this: He only says these things to distract from problems at home. America really should focus on trying to make America a decent country, rather than a country with a wealthy minority and a huge population living in poverty. It's not great at all, certainly not the best country in the world. So long as they have their illogical fear of state funded support, it will always be so.
 
You support neo liberal free market ideology.
I bet you support privatisation

So you are to blame for high taxes and ever worse services.


disagree, myself and many others pay over 50p in the pound to fund freeloaders other countries everything but us
I haven’t heard you moan about Tories spaffing £100b of tax receipts on Brexit.
I haven’t heard you moan about Tories spaffing £4.3b on bogus PPE contracts to their mates
I haven’t heard you moan about Tories spaffing huge fortunes on private healthcare contracts to companies that conveniently have Tory MPs and their mates on the payroll

But you moan about foreigners and dishonestly blame them for the failures of this country.

You may not be racist but you certainly are happy to point the finger at people who look different.
 
Funny how Trump is like, Trumpet. Lots of noise, little style when hooting by itself.

If we've learned one thing from Trump's first 4 years as president, it's this: He only says these things to distract from problems at home. America really should focus on trying to make America a decent country, rather than a country with a wealthy minority and a huge population living in poverty. It's not great at all, certainly not the best country in the world. So long as they have their illogical fear of state funded support, it will always be so.
I'm not sure I agree. As I understand it the MAGA movement is fundamentally driven in large part by the working classes.

Part of the spat in MAGA was caused by Elon & Vivek wanting to keep the HNB1 visa system going vs the nationalist heart of the movement bitterly opposed.

*HB1

*H1B visas even!

Time for a break.
 
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