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I don't feel particularly safe where we are. Although the rest of Europe is more precarious than us as we jump when USA tells us to
Ukraine counter offensive
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Trump: President Putin wants to have peace now. And that's good. And he didn't want to have peace with Biden. You tell me why that is?
Reporter: Do you future in which Ukraine returns to its pre-2014 borders?
Trump: It certainly would seem to be unlikely. They took a lot of land and they fought for that land.
Reporter: The borders and the lack of NATO membership, ultimately these are both demands Russia has made. Is there not a danger of handing Russia a win?
Trump: Well I think if you look at the war, the way the war is going, you'll have to make your own determination
Reporter: Would you support Zelensky ceding territory to end the war?
Trump: He's gonna have to do what he has to do. But his poll numbers aren't particularly great to put it mildly.
Reporter: Do you view Ukraine as an equal member of this peace process?
Trump: Ummmm ... it's an interesting question. I think they have to make peace. That was not a good war to go into.
Reporter: Aren't you squeezing out President Zelensky from this process?
Trump: No, I don't think so, as long as he's there. But at some point you're gonna have to have elections too. You're gonna have to have an election.
And there you have it. Trump praising Putin for taking land by force.
And Ukraine didn't really "go into the war", they are simply defending against an aggressor.
No surprises really.
Reporter: Do you future in which Ukraine returns to its pre-2014 borders?
Trump: It certainly would seem to be unlikely. They took a lot of land and they fought for that land.
Reporter: The borders and the lack of NATO membership, ultimately these are both demands Russia has made. Is there not a danger of handing Russia a win?
Trump: Well I think if you look at the war, the way the war is going, you'll have to make your own determination
Reporter: Would you support Zelensky ceding territory to end the war?
Trump: He's gonna have to do what he has to do. But his poll numbers aren't particularly great to put it mildly.
Reporter: Do you view Ukraine as an equal member of this peace process?
Trump: Ummmm ... it's an interesting question. I think they have to make peace. That was not a good war to go into.
Reporter: Aren't you squeezing out President Zelensky from this process?
Trump: No, I don't think so, as long as he's there. But at some point you're gonna have to have elections too. You're gonna have to have an election.
And there you have it. Trump praising Putin for taking land by force.
And Ukraine didn't really "go into the war", they are simply defending against an aggressor.
No surprises really.
Trump is crap at negotiating when he's not in a position of strength, but giving that away before negotiations begin is just odd.
Why is the world taking seriously the man who set up Trump University as an elite education institution. He is only acting in his own and Americas financial interests. He doesn't give flying fu*k about European security. Thank God it was Roosevelt who Churchill visited in 1941, not him.
Not entirely.Europe step up
Yeah right
Hopeless mob totally hopeless
Nothing more than a talking shop for over paid pencil pushers and paper shufflers
Here is a very long list of who sent what (although some is unknown:
Or just tanks:
| 14 x Challenger 2 (UK) |
|---|
| 31 x M1A1 Abrams (US) |
| 45 x T-72B (US) |
| 8 x Leopard 2A4 (Canada) |
| 109-189 x Leopard 1A5 (Ger/Den/Ned) |
| 7 x Leopard 2A4 (Denmark) |
| 7 x Leopard 2A4 (Netherlands) |
| 18 x Leopard 2A6 (Germany) |
| 28 x M55S (Slovakia) |
| 3 x Leopard 2A6 (Portugal) |
How many tanks have Western countries provided to Ukraine? - Army Technology
Western countries have sought to provide Ukraine with several hundred tanks to aid Kyiv in its operations against Russia.
www.army-technology.com
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And people think he's doing what's best !
He's making the world a dangerous place, worse than it is
Certainly conflating defence priorities with trade deficits isn't very reassuring.
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If only Trump spotted the real estate potential of Crimea.
Do you seriously think if Germany decided to invade us today that we would stand a chance?Europe step up
Yeah right
Hopeless mob totally hopeless
Nothing more than a talking shop for over paid pencil pushers and paper shufflers
Wow
The grift is unreal:
“Trump: Ummmm ... it's an interesting question. I think they have to make peace. That was not a good war to go into”
He ignores the fact Ukraine didn’t start the war.
We should never have let it go
No
Putin would’ve backed off
Had USA / NATO Threatened Putin back in Feb 2022 he wouldn’t have invaded at all.
