Liverpool Ramming

[Notch7]

about 14 years ago i witnessed such an incident from 10 feet away.
a range rover went straight through a crowd of about 100 england fans bouncing over the bodies as he did so . I was amazed at how few serious injuries there was a few broken limbs and a ripped off ear , Bloody horrendous to watch

sh1t that mustve been awful to witness and the aftermath, bystanders that get involved in such a scene really suffer from shock

 

[denso13]

This is about a ramming -its not about race so put that away right now.

But it always is for non whites. Other recent threads have said that brown people can't possibly have got it wrong or be mentally ill, that's just an out and out excuse on their part.

This time it's completely different.

Just pointing out the contradictions. I think everyone should get the same treatment.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

Yep I saw that version. I wonder if it will emerge that a roadblock wasn’t blocked.

Am I right in thinking the bus had passed that way just moments before? Maybe they hadn't restored the temp barriers (in time) behind the route the bus had just come from?

 

[diy_fun_uk]

The number of people posting so far who seem desperate for the person arrested to be muslim or a terror-plotter is a sad indictment oftheir constant need to express their racism and or xenophobia.

I've got a couple of points to make on this aspect.

Firstly, the far right will jump on any chance to blame a brown foreigner. Not saying that's right or wrong, it's just a fact and not something that's going to change.

Secondly, and this point might be slightly contentious, I'd assert it's human nature to a degree for people born and bred in a country to sometimes look on a crime differently if it's been conducted by a foreign person, even more so when they're an asylum seeker. For example, say a Saudi native runs down and kills 10 people. It's horrific. Say a white Brit does the same in Saudi, there will be some Saudi natives who say 'told you it was a mistake letting these British people move here in greater numbers!'

In summary, if it's one of our own a crime is bad enough. If it's a perceived outsider, it can be considered even worse.

 

[Vinty]

Luckily no one has died, and as has been pointed out, it could be a case of the driver of the car panicking and not someone with mental health issues.

 

[Highway Man]

A terrible ordeal for anyone involved in it both witnesses and the victims. Colour or ethnicity doesn’t reallly enter into this other than was it or not a terrorist attack in which terrorists have history of this. Pretty normal to at least wonder.

 

[ellal]

I think the code now is if we aren't told he's white then he must be black (or non-white at least).

Actually the policy of disclosure is because...

"Police have not kept up with the risks posed to the public by social media, a review of the response to last summer's UK riots has found"

The riots being Southport, and the far right reaction.

"We'd seen an awful lot of information on social media or other places in relation to people who were making claims that were either false or were inciting hatred,"

Some of that happens here

 

[denso13]

Colour or ethnicity doesn’t reallly enter into this other than was it or not a terrorist attack in which terrorists have history of this.

You said you would shoot them before they committed their terrorist acts if they could. Would you have shot this guy in his car?

 

[noseall]

You said you would shoot them before they committed their terrorist acts if they could. Would you have shot this guy in his car?

As long as he shouts Alu Akbar! by the sounds of it.

 

[Highway Man]

You said you would shoot them before they committed their terrorist acts if they could. Would you have shot this guy in his car?

If the intel was in place that he was planning this then a big yes to that. Without hesitation.

 

[martygturner]

As we know nothing why speculate... All that happens is that when a truth is established it sets up another conflict, the media said this, my mate said that, what are they hiding etc etc etc. This trial by media is not healthy, focus on the victims and leave it at that until a trial.

 

[Highway Man]

As long as he shouts Alu Akbar! by the sounds of it.

He wouldn’t get Akbar out. Swift and sure way of ridding these nut jobs. In the instance of committing terrorism not just in prayer before you start on that path.

 

[Odds]

And I agree with the OP, have the police now set a precedent by quickly giving a basic outline of the person? Will they now do this for every major incident like this, regardless of skin colour etc. I think not, otherwise things could kick off big time, which is exactly what they're trying to mitigate.

Think again.
Facial recognition cameras are being deployed all over major cities throughout the UK.

 

[transam]

Take a laxative so as to clear your head out

 

[Notch7]

I do wonder though, that if it had been a 20 year old immigrant or Muslim driving the car, whether the authorities would be as quick to let everyone know their age, colour and nationality.

no they probably wouldnt because they dont want the right wing c**** using it to stir up trouble like Farage did last time leading to riots