Ssssssshhhhhh, don't mention Reform.

logical fallacy

no wonder Motorbiking liked your post, he loves logical fallacies, every post of his contains several
You are not a model poster yourself and I prefer to take notice of what MBK posts rather than your terrible opinionated rubbish.
 
Odd that you won’t answer.

Your alternative is wrong of course.
I cant answer because your question is based on a falsehood

I repeat:

You’ve stated that the "act of a state protecting it’s territorial waters from non innocent passage as per their rights under article 25"

until the boat enters into British waters, "non innocent passage" is not happening

so you are WRONG
 
I cant answer because your question is based on a falsehood

I repeat:

You’ve stated that the "act of a state protecting it’s territorial waters from non innocent passage as per their rights under article 25"

until the boat enters into British waters, "non innocent passage" is not happening

so you are WRONG
So they don’t have the ability to prevent a vessel whose passage is not innocent from entering their territorial waters.

This is your position?
 
I shall ignore your whataboutery word salad and state this:

a British boat entering French water to carry out pushbacks on migrant boats is not an act of innocent passage
That doesn’t look like you’re ignoring anything to me.
 
So they don’t have the ability to prevent a vessel whose passage is not innocent from entering their territorial waters.

This is your position?

My position is that a vessel not in British territorial waters is not engaging in non innocent passage in British waters
 
You are not a model poster yourself and I prefer to take notice of what MBK posts rather than your terrible opinionated rubbish.
MBK lies

it is no surprise you take notice of liars, you like Trump, Farage, Johnson -all liars
 
Please show me on this image where the border between France and British territorial waters runs

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It is noted Motorbiking hasnt answered this yet.

I guess its because it screws up his argument
 

Conditions for Innocent Passage​

  • While the right to innocent passage is a recognized principle, it is subject to certain conditions.
  • Article 18 of UNCLOS stipulates that passage must be continuous and expeditious.
  • This means that vessels should not linger unnecessarily in the territorial sea and must not engage in activities that could be deemed as stopping or anchoring without justification.

does the image below satisfy the "vessels should not linger or engage in activities that could be deemed as stopping"

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…says Liar7, the biggest liar of the forum.

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Mottie won’t say why he supports Reform

Mottie says he is very happy with what’s happening in America: undocumented people being ripped out of their families and deported without due process.

Ah yes, we know why Mottie supports Reform…….
 
Political will. It’s not a legal matter it’s a political one.
No

It is clearly a legal position. Political will also, I notice the Tories did not have that. Labour appear to have some will, but they do need to make some highly noticeable effects soon.
 
Political will. It’s not a legal matter it’s a political one.
It’s a diplomatic issue.

U.K. will never be able to do pushbacks or returns to France, because they will say fek off.

France is part of EU and it has far more ,leverage than UK in negotiations.
 
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