Flag dynamics

[aveatry]

Here is mine for the 45 degree bracket. I have 2 resin fixed threaded studs at the front of the house at bedroom window height so I can lean out
Slip the bracket on and secure with butterfly nuts. Its 20mm overflow pipe and the swivel is from a locking nut I cut the centre a bit bigger. The black bit is glued in place to stop the swivel sliding all the way down - the bottom is the same but I have added an aluminium section to strengthen the plastic pipe.

I can not put my hands on my bracket but its a little bit like this but 45 degree it slots onto my 2 studs and the pole slots on and mine is tightend with just one butterfly nut by hand whereas this one is 2 nuts

 

[JohnW2]

Talking of flags, I have a question ...

I watched a bit of 'The Last Night of the Proms' on TV on Saturday. Unless my memory fails me, in previous years one would have expected to see vast numbers of Union Flags (and a small minority of other ones) being waved by the audience. However, this year, there was just a massive 'sea of blue' - and when I looked more carefully, it was due to vast numbers of EU flags being waved, with few, if any Union Flags (let all St. George Cross ones) to be seen.

What was that all about? Even if GB and English flags had been 'banned', why all the EU ones?

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

What was that all about? Even if GB and English flags had been 'banned', why all the EU ones?

Are you sure they were not Yorkshire flags

 

[JohnW2]

Are you sure they were not Yorkshire flags

Only if the Yorkshire flag (with which I'm not familiar ) is a blue flag with a large ring of yellow stars on it

 

[Munroast]

Talking of flags, I have a question ...

I watched a bit of 'The Last Night of the Proms' on TV on Saturday. Unless my memory fails me, in previous years one would have expected to see vast numbers of Union Flags (and a small minority of other ones) being waved by the audience. However, this year, there was just a massive 'sea of blue' - and when I looked more carefully, it was due to vast numbers of EU flags being waved, with few, if any Union Flags (let all St. George Cross ones) to be seen.

What was that all about? Even if GB and English flags had been 'banned', why all the EU ones?

there was a good few union flags, but yes, certainly out numbered by EU ones (probably handed out by the bbc) . but the pomp and ceremony marches were as usual done with great gusto, and quite rightly so, I love a bit of "Rule, Britannia" and "Land of hope and glory" - if I had a flag to wave I would have waved it.

on a side note, back in 2014 I was rather madly considering voting YES in the scottish indy ref - but we were watching "Last Night of the Proms" a few days before the vote, and I was rather taken by the many saltire been waved in the Albert Hall and this made my mind up - I wanted to stay in the union

 

[JohnW2]

there was a good few union flags, but yes, certainly out numbered by EU ones

Very much outnumbered (see below - albeit nothing like as dramatic in a 'still' than it is in the actual video footage).

(probably handed out by the bbc) ....

Yes, very possibly, but "Why?"

. but the pomp and ceremony marches were as usual done with great gusto, and quite rightly so, I love a bit of "Rule, Britannia" and "Land of hope and glory" - if I had a flag to wave I would have waved it.

Same here.
A bit of the blue sea' in a frame from the Land and Hope footage ....

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Same here.
A bit of the blue sea' in a frame from the Land and Hope footage ....

Very strange - maybe ask the BBC?

 

[morqthana]

Why do you ask?

Is it cos I is a dork?

It makes no difference. Durrrrr

Presumably the incorrect answer people were giving was £100?

 

[Munroast]

Very much outnumbered (see below - albeit nothing like as dramatic in a 'still' than it is in the actual video footage).

Yes, very possibly, but "Why?"

Same here.
A bit of the blue sea' in a frame from the Land and Hope footage ....
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Coming out of the EU seems to have been a bigger blow to the 'arty farty' types than it was to just the plain sensible and thinking minority within society. Last Night of the proms has to be thee Mecca for Arty Farty types, so this i believe is their protest, and lets face it, the beeb (even thou they do their very best to be impartial) will be full of Arty Farty types. and will no doubt have been joyed at that sea of blue

I did love the protest in London after our exit from the EU - it looked as though Waitrose had an unexpected early close that day

 

[morqthana]

What was that all about?

A lot of the audience realising that the Union & England flags have been hijacked by the, often violent, right?

Even if GB and English flags had been 'banned'

They haven't.

 

[morqthana]

Coming out of the EU seems to have been a bigger blow to the 'arty farty' types ... Last Night of the proms has to be thee Mecca for Arty Farty types, ... the beeb .. will be full of Arty Farty types.

I never realised just how cultured you were.

 

[JohnW2]

Very strange - maybe ask the BBC?

It doesn't really matter to me, but if anyone would really like to seek an answer than, yes, asking the BBC might be a good starting point.

 

[JohnW2]

A lot of the audience realising that the Union & England flags have been hijacked by the, often violent, right?

Yes - but as I wrote, even if they had been 'banned' (which I knew they hadn't) even that would not explain the appearance of so many EU flags - and the same would be true if they had all'voluntarily' avoided the Union & England flags for the reason you describe.

In any event, as I suggested before, if virtually everyone there had chosen to wave English Flags, the 'hijackers' might have come to realise that their 'hijack' was not achieving anything much, and 'onlookers' would have come to realise that displaying/flying/waving England flags had little or nothing to do with the views of the 'hijackers'.

 

[JohnW2]

Coming out of the EU seems to have been a bigger blow to the 'arty farty' types than it was to just the plain sensible and thinking minority within society. Last Night of the proms has to be thee Mecca for Arty Farty types, so this i believe is their protest, and lets face it, the beeb (even thou they do their very best to be impartial) will be full of Arty Farty types. and will no doubt have been joyed at that sea of blue

I doubt that any of that is a significant part of the explanation for all the EU flags.

 

[aveatry]

Coming out of the EU seems to have been a bigger blow to the 'arty farty' types than it was to just the plain sensible and thinking minority within society. Last Night of the proms has to be thee Mecca for Arty Farty types, so this i believe is their protest, and lets face it, the beeb (even thou they do their very best to be impartial) will be full of Arty Farty types. and will no doubt have been joyed at that sea of blue
I did love the protest in London after our exit from the EU - it looked as though Waitrose had an unexpected early close that day

The arty farty types who go to the proms are the ones who all had villas in France and Spain and can no longer spend half a year there and that is all they care about. I hear it every time there is a phone in debate on the radio and they are complaining about the price of tomatoes and anything else you can think of and brexit is a disaster and whatever and then it comes out ----- I had a villa in spain ---my wife is french- blah blah that is all they care about - like noseall on here all he is upset about is he can not go skiing 20 times a year.
Those that voted leave did so because they thought it was best for the country -- including notch everyone else voted remain for totally selfish reasons.