Two-Tierness

[Knave of Hearts]

How long will you be harping on about that old tosh? What exactly do you imagine that coloured people are prevented from doing in UK that white people aren't? Sounds more like professional greivance mongering than anything based on fact.

It's not the 50s any more, Nosey.

It's not really about prevention, it's more about dissuading or discouraging black people from doing what white people aren't. Prevention would be illegal, but dissuading and discouraging still goes on.

And the first Race Relations Act came in the 60's, It only included discrimination in public places. It was extended to cover housing and work in the late 60's.
It was further extended in 1978, and then consolidated with other legislation in 2010
But there is obviously wide-spread racial hatred practised by many.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

For the same crime? Don’t think so

It's not about the crime as much as the pre-sentencing reports, the defence (including the cost of) during any trial, etc.

It's pretty obvious to most that a good solicitor and or QC is expensive, but it makes a whole lot of difference during any trial.
Then the pre-sentencing assessment also makes a world of difference to the punishment.

A silly example: two young girls steal some food. one steals it because she is hungry and can't feed her baby. The other steals it merely to deprive anyone else from having it.
The same crime, different motives, different outcomes.

 

[Notch7]

"Human Rights" are also two-tier. They are only afforded to criminals, illegal immigrants and Party Members.

Troll

 

[noseall]

"Human Rights" are also two-tier. They are only afforded to criminals, illegal immigrants and Party Members.

More nonsense.

 

[yorksbuilder]

Is that a seed dibber?

It's Notch7's mouthpiece

 

[Notch7]

It's Notch7's mouthpiece

That was almost funny

I hope you are having a great evening

 

[motorbiking]

Who'd have thought, legislation like this would be necessary.

Sentencing Guidelines (Pre-sentence Reports) Act 2025

www.legislation.gov.uk

The idea that pre-sentence reports can be determined by race, religion, sex etc..

One good thing the labour government did, at least.

 

[securespark]

But there is obviously wide-spread racial hatred practised by many.

Yeah, most recently by *****, against a certain mayor.

 

[motorbiking]

Or it could be because he thinks he's just a really bad mayor.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

Who'd have thought, legislation like this would be necessary.

Sentencing Guidelines (Pre-sentence Reports) Act 2025

www.legislation.gov.uk

The idea that pre-sentence reports can be determined by race, religion, sex etc..

One good thing the labour government did, at least.

Of course ethnicity, religion or sexuality is not a determining factor, per se, in pre-sentencing reports
But consider my earlier silly example:

It's not about the crime as much as the pre-sentencing reports, the defence (including the cost of) during any trial, etc.

It's pretty obvious to most that a good solicitor and or QC is expensive, but it makes a whole lot of difference during any trial.
Then the pre-sentencing assessment also makes a world of difference to the punishment.

A silly example: two young girls steal some food. one steals it because she is hungry and can't feed her baby. The other steals it merely to deprive anyone else from having it.
The same crime, different motives, different outcomes.

If the hungry thief was of a minority (due to their ethnicity, religion or sexuality, etc), and the spiteful thief was of a dominant, hate-filled majority, the pre-sentence reports would reflect those issues. Yet it's probable that the spiteful thief would have access to better counsel.
But no doubt many would quote the outcome as an example of two-tier justice.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

Or it could be because he thinks he's just a really bad mayor.

Or it could be that the Mayor's ethnicity and religion has twisted his perception of the Mayor's policies, or added venom to them.

 

[pete01]

 

[MNW67]

I wonder what sentence a white British man would have got. These seem to be the facts:

Kebatu attempted to kiss the girl and placed his hand on her thigh, as well as asking her to kiss another child in front of him, the court heard.

When a woman intervened he also placed his hand on her thigh, which she said made her feel "shocked, uncomfortable", before she called the police.

 

[Si_]

What about an Islamist who comes out onto the street to confront a man exercising free speech, tells him, "I'm going to kill you," goes back into his house, retrieves a knife and attempts to stab the man to death.

Zero jail time. For attempted murder.

'Extremist Muslims get green light to take law into own hands'

Hamit Coskun, 51, shouted 'f*** Islam', 'Islam is religion of terrorism' and 'Koran is burning', as he held the flaming book during a protest in west London on February 13.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Yet people have been sentenced to 30 months jail for saying they 'would not care' if hotels were set on fire.

 

[Notch7]

What about an Islamist who comes out onto the street to confront a man exercising free speech, tells him, "I'm going to kill you," goes back into his house, retrieves a knife and attempts to stab the man to death.

Zero jail time. For attempted murder.

'Extremist Muslims get green light to take law into own hands'

Hamit Coskun, 51, shouted 'f*** Islam', 'Islam is religion of terrorism' and 'Koran is burning', as he held the flaming book during a protest in west London on February 13.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Yet people have been sentenced to 30 months jail for saying they 'would not care' if hotels were set on fire.

the person burning a religious book shouldve got a prison sentence

terrible thing to do