It’s not fair, is it?

[pete01]

Oh it does. Fillstine, Highway Man and MWN67 have contributed to the discussion. Maybe others also.
I'd like to get to the bottom of it, so i can make an informed assessment of who is trustworthy, and who is telling lies.

Why does this situation need your assessment?

 

[Koolpc]

UK deaths of 1,611 homeless people in 2024 is record high

Most are linked to suicide or drugs, with spice and nitazenes increasingly deadly.

www.bbc.co.uk

If they'd come across the channel in a rubber dinghy, unchecked and with no papers, they’d have gone straight into a hotel and been warm, fed and medically looked after. We do that weekly for strangers from other countries, why can’t we do it for our own?

So so true...

 

[Highway Man]

What, not even to mention the tenner?

Other than that.

 

[pete01]

Other than that.

Oh thank god I was having a panic attack

 

[Brigadier]

How can the loons on here go against what mottie said....im not surprised though

Because homelessness is not all about lack of availability of a roof.

Mental health and addiction play a huge part in homelessness.

You only have to look at the number of squalid houses (with those occupying them oblivious to the fact) to realise that some can't / won't cope with a house.

Take that a degree further and you have people who can't cope with even the thought of having a roof over their heads at all (they can't cope with the responsibility). Even if it is provided for them.

They're "happier" without those bonds.


That's why Mottie's points - all being made from "not being in their shoes", and not being of their mental state - cannot be taken as gospel.


In other words, if only life (and solving its problems) was so simple, we'd have already done so.

 

[pete01]

Because homelessness is not all about lack of availability of a roof.

Mental health and addiction play a huge part in homelessness.

You only have to look at the number of squalid houses (with those occupying them oblivious to the fact) to realise that some can't / won't cope with a house.

Take that a degree further and you have people who can't cope with even the thought of having a roof over their heads at all (they can't cope with the responsibility). Even if it is provided for them.

They're "happier" without those bonds.


That's why Mottie's points - all being made from "not being in their shoes", and not being of their mental state - cannot be taken as gospel.


In other words, if only life (and solving its problems) was so simple, we'd have already done so.

Good answer, if only everyone on your side made as much sense....

Still seems wrong to me but I do get ya

 

[Highway Man]

Good answer, if only everyone on your side made as much sense....

Still seems wrong to me but I do get ya

He has just read that on google

 

[pete01]

He has just read that on google

OMG

 

[Highway Man]

OMG

I know

 

[noseall]

A distinct lack of respect

You do realise that with regards to many of the homeless, the lack of respect is not a one way street, don't you?

 

[noseall]

WTF is that to do with our own homeless people dying?

Drug addicts and alcoholics tend to have a self imposed, decreased life expectancy. And no matter how much help is sent their way, the drugs and alcohol are placed way above obeying the rules.

 

[pete01]

Drug addicts and alcoholics tend to have a self imposed, decreased life expectancy. And no matter how much help is sent their way, the drugs and alcohol are placed way above obeying the rules.

F*** em then......

 

[noseall]

F*** em then......

Unfortunately, after all the many offers of help - then I guess that's what they bring upon themselves - yes.

 

[pete01]

After all the many offers of help - then I guess that's what they bring upon themselves - yes.

I dont think we should be giving up on war heroes, my old Grandad struggled....but he had a big family for support.....it's heartbreaking for those that dont have that.....well to me anyway.

 

[Munroast]

Because homelessness is not all about lack of availability of a roof.

Mental health and addiction play a huge part in homelessness.

You only have to look at the number of squalid houses (with those occupying them oblivious to the fact) to realise that some can't / won't cope with a house.

Take that a degree further and you have people who can't cope with even the thought of having a roof over their heads at all (they can't cope with the responsibility). Even if it is provided for them.

They're "happier" without those bonds.


That's why Mottie's points - all being made from "not being in their shoes", and not being of their mental state - cannot be taken as gospel.


In other words, if only life (and solving its problems) was so simple, we'd have already done so.

they seemed to welcome the hotel accomadition they were given during lockdown, but that money ran out and is now spent on migrants instead

the homeless often don't use hostels as the are often violent places and some find it safer and more peaceful on the street