Labour receive another kicking at the ballot box.

[motorbiking]

Reform were expected to win.

If you look at it from their view they suffered from people voting for anybody but them.

You may want to view it as a win, if you are delusional.

Virtually ALL the political analysts they are saying the same thing. There was a lot of tactical voting to keep them out

Labour Vote collapsed to Plaid. its that simple. Its how Labour got into power when the Conservative vote collapsed to LibDem and Reform.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Labour Vote collapsed to Plaid. its that simple. Its how Labour got into power when the Conservative vote collapsed to LibDem and Reform.

Not what is being said.

Maybe if you look at things from 1 angle only, which is what you always do, but...

The bottom line is that REFORM SHOULD HAVE WON but LOST.

Tactical voting was the reason why.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Even Reforms own David Bull said ..

"I actually think the problem for us was the MRP poll, which was released two or three days ago.

"It showed us on 42%, Plaid on 38%, and it changed some people's minds.

I've heard tales from Lib Dem supporters, even Tories, actually voting tactically for Plaid to keep us out."



They know it, it's you that doesnt

 

[Brigadier]

They know it, it's you that doesnt

MBK is just blinded by his anti-Labour ideology.

As it wasn't Labour that won though, he's arguing to no worthwhile end.

 

[noseall]

That’s nonsense, Plaid Cymru were the only option to keep the liars out

Tactical voting was done on this seat to keep out the Reform party liars, grifters and corrupt cheats away from power.

Correct. Fromage = first loser.

 

[noseall]

The bottom line is that REFORM SHOULD HAVE WON but LOST.

Tactical voting as well as those keen to turn out to keep the liar and scrounger out of power.

 

[motorbiking]

MBK is just blinded by his anti-Labour ideology.

As it wasn't Labour that won though, he's arguing to no worthwhile end.

It’s not ideology, to want the disastrous Labour government out.

I would like a government than can deliver growth in the economy not the tax take.

 

[motorbiking]

Correct. Fromage = first loser.

Labour lost the seat. You do understand that?

 

[noseall]

Labour lost the seat. You do understand that?

More irrelevance from MBK.

Standard.

 

[Brigadier]

It’s not ideology, to want the disastrous Labour government out.

And before the current government?


Tell me you're not ideologically opposed to Labour

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Labour lost the seat. You do understand that?

Do you know who won?

It wasn't reform

 

[Mottie]

In politics 2nd place isn't good enough

Give yer head a shake. Has any political party that has won an election won every seat they’ve fought for then?

 

[Notch7]

Labour Vote collapsed to Plaid. its that simple. It’s how Labour got into power when the Conservative vote collapsed to LibDem and Reform.

Reform vote collapsed to Plaid Cymru. It’s that simple.

Seems like Reform peaked 4 years too early.

 

[Notch7]

Give yer head a shake. Has any political party that has won an election won every seat they’ve fought for then?

Reform threw the kitchen sink at the bye election.

They were polling 4 to 6 points ahead of Plaid Cymru, but they got slaughtered.


Looks like Reform are on the downward descent

 

[pete01]

Reform vote collapsed to Plaid Cymru. It’s that simple.

Seems like Reform peaked 4 years too early.

The only way is up....

Theres a song in that somewhere