A 22-year-old Afghan national.

[Elsa TLC]

How?



I'll ask you a shorter version of that.

Do you think?

Its would be to difficult to explain in more depth

 

[morqthana]

So in your scenario, you think that the killings by foreigners are avoidable, but you can't explain how.

OK.

 

[fillyboy]

So in your scenario, you think that the killings by foreigners are avoidable, but you can't explain how.

OK.

Isn't it obvious, either stop the foreigners coming in or hold them in secure places until more is known about them.

One thing always fascinates me, all these terrorists, murderers, killers of children, without exception, they're never Jewish.

 

[morqthana]

Isn't it obvious, either stop the foreigners coming in

Don't be silly.

or hold them in secure places until more is known about them.

For how long? Who would look, and where, and at what, to learn "more about them"?

One thing always fascinates me, all these terrorists, murderers, killers of children, without exception, they're never Jewish.

I think you'll find that a lot of people in the IDF are Jewish.

And I don't know about the UK, but other countries have had Jewish murderers, Jewish terrorists...

 

[fillyboy]

I think you'll find that a lot of people in the IDF are Jewish.

Lots are, about 1000 Muslims though, mainly Palestinian descent, with a few Drews and Bedouins thrown in. No conscription either, they choose to fight for the IDF.

And I don't know about the UK, but other countries have had Jewish murderers, Jewish terrorists...

You do know about the UK and you do know about Europe. Name one terror attack on Europe by Jews.

 

[morqthana]

I can't, but you also talked about murderers, by which I assumed you meant just plain murderers.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Ok I will try again.

But can I ask first.... What attracts you to foreign criminals?

What a crass statement

Shows the (lack) level of understanding

 

[Knave of Hearts]

Its everyone's right.

As is claiming asylum.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

He'll have a defence counsel because that's the system, however clearcut the evidence is

It's relevant because if he hadn't come here (illegally) and been granted asylum, the victim would still be alive

It's not illegal to claim asylum.
Because you don't understand that simple fact, your arguments are poorly informed.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

But do we want to add to the number of killers by importing foreign ones?

We don't import people, never mind importing killers.
Your comments are total nonsense.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

If he was still in Afghanistan, he wouldn't have murdered anyone in the UK

Maybe he wasn't a killer when he escaped Afghanistan.
Maybe it's the experience of being in UK for 5 years that turned him into a killer.
People aren't born to kill. Their experience and treatment influences their decisions and actions.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

Would he not have a defence lawyer?

You think he should not be entitled to the same system as indigenous criminals?
On what do you base your opinion?
I can see only one characteristic that would influence that opinion.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

If somebody is a violent criminal, they should be returned to their country of origin regardless as to how dangerous it is there.

If they don't want that to happen, then don't commit violent crimes.

The vast majority of murderers are not "violent criminals".
Only about 5% of murders are premeditated.
The rest are a result of sudden impulsive outbursts of anger. Therefore not under the murderer's control. Therefore the potential murderer would not stop to consider the repercussions.

The vast majority of homicides are not premeditated; they are typically unplanned, spontaneous acts resulting from arguments or sudden rages. Some studies have indicated that as few as 5% of homicides are classified as intentional, premeditated, or planned.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

As you say they should be deported, regardless how dangerous their country is.

Afghanistan is dangerous and a good few on here will defend his deportation.

So was NI, and the murderers closed ranks to deny justice to the victims.
Did you complain about that?

 

[Knave of Hearts]

Think about how some could turn up on our shores, with no details, no ID, no money, no medical history, no psychiatric history, no criminal history etc, and be allowed to roam the streets unsupervised is utterly insane, isn't it?

I wonder what the far lefties are going to say about this one.

The far lefties would probably say they should be assessed properly and given the supervision and support that they need.