This Will Not Work For The Patient

[morqthana]

Whatever bright spark gets in power and wants to abolish NHS, we will have to fight it in the strongest way possible.

Plan B:

Avoid having to have that fight by avoiding voting in the first place for parties promising to abolish it..

 

[Highway Man]

You probably know that you are living in a country with a large number of older people.

Older people need more treatment and care, more often, and for longer.

Healthy young workers generally don't

You might be surprised to learn that private health insurance for older people increases in cost every year, and can easily exceed the state pension. Perhaps that doesn't worry you because you are a rich man and can afford to pay hundreds of thousands of pounds during the course of your retirement, or perhaps you intend to die as soon as you stop work.

It is perhaps ironic that the sector of the population most keen on cutting and avoiding tax, is that same sector most dependent on public spending.

Some of them also resent healthy young people willing to provide care at low wages.

I think once you reach retirement age then the service would be then tackled like it currently is, on the NHS with government funding but paying into it whilst healthy should build a pot up which the unused payments go into a retiirement pot, a bit like how car insurance works. A portion of your national insurance would be put into the same pot too.

 

[morqthana]

This is out of date, doctor's pay has increased over the last couple of years, but it continued to decline after this, until that point, and has basically only got back up to where this graph finishes.

You can see why they would be unreceptive to being told by one of the groups on that chart that there's no money for them.

 

[morqthana]

This is the way forward in my opinion, large company's like mine should be made to provide private heathcare to their employees to help lessen the load on the NHS.

And for smaller companies?

The self-employed?

Those not working?

Those in low paid jobs?

Those on zero-hours contracts?

 

[Highway Man]

And for smaller companies?

The self-employed?

Those not working?

Those in low paid jobs?

Those on zero-hours contracts?

Self employed will need to pay thier own, those not working will want and need to get a job.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Self employed will need to pay thier own, those not working will want and need to get a job.

America system then.

You do know it doesn't work for the majority?

 

[Highway Man]

America system then.

You do know it doesn't work for the majority?

I would be fine with it, those who wouldn't qualify would still receive basic essential healthcare free of charge.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

I would be fine with it, those who wouldn't qualify would still receive basic essential healthcare free of charge.

It's great until it unless you get a major illness. And end up bankrupt.

 

[Highway Man]

It's great until it unless you get a major illness. And end up bankrupt.

You wouldnt as it is insurance backed, same as if you lose your car, you wont go bankrupt

 

[carmanmemoranda]

You wouldnt as it is insurance backed, same as if you lose your car, you wont go bankrupt

Just like the American system

Where many go bankrupt because their child has a life affecting illness or disease

Losing your car through not paying isn't the same

 

[transam]

There was a strike in the 70s

3 day week / power cuts / pretty much every one came out

Hospitals

Relatives had to take grub into the hospital for those / patients in there as the caterers went on strike

No relatives you would probably have starved to death ???

Today massive amounts of money are wasted in the NHS plenty have got there snouts in the trough

Paper shufflers and pencil pushers ???

 

[Highway Man]

Just like the American system

Where many go bankrupt because their child has a life affecting illness or disease

Losing your car through not paying isn't the same

Not like the American system in my plan to help the NHS, those that can pay for insurance has to have it, those that cant don't need to have it.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Not like the American system in my plan to help the NHS, those that can pay for insurance has to have it, those that cant don't need to have it.

Just like USA then, until a certain person stopped a lot of the free part

 

[Highway Man]

Just like USA then, until a certain person stopped a lot of the free part

My plan doesnt have that, it has free health care built in. I think I have come up with a fantastic plan that saves the NHS

 

[carmanmemoranda]

My plan doesnt have that, it has free health care built in. I think I have come up with a fantastic plan that saves the NHS

Great if it does.

But personally it sounds too close to the USA system, which has been proven not to be good for the many