How Good are New Toilets?

Not only are modern 6L toilets often unable to flush properly, but these small cisterns are too small for the reliable and leak free siphon flush system to work. So instead they are fitted with a bottom outlet valve which often leaks - and since this is into the toilet bowl this leak goes unnoticed.
So the "save the planet" move to tiny toilet cisterns to "save water" actually wastes it in two ways - needing 2 or 3 flushes instead of one, and continual unnoticed leaks from the cistern into the toilet.
Law of unintended consequences!
 
Modern flush valves are far more efficient than the old flapper valves plus you can usually adjust the fill valve to use the water required to clear the pan.
 
In Germany it's fairly typical to have a toilet where your output is held on a shelf for you to inspect before flushing. Can be a useful diagnostic tool for various serious conditions so not exactly an horrific idea

I have used those types before. V odd. I often spend ages on the bog in the morning making sure that I am completely empty given that I work in people's homes. With the German/Dutch loos, I would need about 5 flushes just to keep the smell down.

Ultimately, with a UK loo, I can just look down into the water.

With regards to skid marks, some are far worse than others. You have to stick loo paper to the back of the pan, either that or flush every five or ten minutes (and then use the loo brush).
 
If I'm in there longer than a minute, I have Av shouting up, asking if I'm still alive :-)

I am happy to sit there for 30 mins. Like I said, I want to be empty when I leave for work. 30 mins in the morning Vs using the customer or pub loo later in the day- no brainer (IMO).
 

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