Trickle down don't work

[Ivor Windybottom]

Disagree. Or are you saying those with privately owned ones aren't proud of them.

You're trying to score nonsense points as usual.

Councils often over-maintain. E.g. they replace roofs at x years whether needed or not. They save the cost of sending someone to inspect and the bureaucracy of fixing different houses at different times, but it's probably wasteful overall and only makes sense due to the vast salaries of the admin people.

You see streets where half have matching new roofs and windows, sometimes wall insulation. It's obvious which are bought or not.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

My roof's beyond its expected lifespan. But it doesn't leak so it's currently costing £0 in replacement cost.

This is how private ownership saves money, for everyone.

The maintenance inspector (me) is on full-time duty and costs exactly £0 in salary.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

I think the point being made was that it relieves the council of the burden of maintaining them.

Hence all the ones they retain have new windows, because they are required to spend on them.

That is how I read it anyway.

I personally love the idea of councils selling homes and using the profits to build new.. a sort of state owned property developer. As long as they outsource it to experts it would make a huge dent in housing needs.

Would be great if they reinvested the money from the sales of houses to new ones.

It didn't happen though and that's the point

 

[carmanmemoranda]

You're trying to score nonsense points as usual.

Councils often over-maintain. E.g. they replace roofs at x years whether needed or not. They save the cost of sending someone to inspect and the bureaucracy of fixing different houses at different times, but it's probably wasteful overall and only makes sense due to the vast salaries of the admin people.

You see streets where half have matching new roofs and windows, sometimes wall insulation. It's obvious which are bought or not.

Shame you only addressed 1 of the points.

There always has been, and will be, a need for council housing.

Nothing wrong with selling them off, at a true market price. As long as the stock of houses is maintained

Selling off cheap and not re investing in new is bad on both counts.

I don't have any issues with well maintained houses, the rents should cover it. Ok some repairs may not be necessarily needed but it's not always a bad thing.

 

[morqthana]

Why do you see everything as the fault of the left ?

Because everybody except him is "the left", and it ain't his fault, so...

 

[Vinty]

Not really a good analagy, I can afford lots of things as everyone else can but dont buy them, you have to add desire or need into that recipe for success.

Poorer people spend a bigger proportion of their income on goods and services than the rich.
They also tend to spend that money locally, which helps small businesses.

 

[SPLINE]

Since 1979, approximately one-tenth of Britain’s entire territory has been sold off

If we ever get a decent government they should compulsorily purchase it all back.

If you live in one of the occupied towns of the north, rather than in an affluent, all white village with bistros, you will have witnessed a steady buying-up of ex-town halls, colleges and other civic buildings, and seen them turned into mosques. These are effectively foreign territory.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

If we ever get a decent government they should compulsorily purchase it all back.

From all the Tory capitalists ?

If you live in one of the occupied towns of the north, rather than in an affluent, all white village with bistros, you will have witnessed a steady buying-up of ex-town halls, colleges and other civic buildings, and seen them turned into mosques. These are effectively foreign territory.

A lot of Russians own property and business here too. Actually a few Russians but a lot of property.

Much more valuable areas and amounts too

You are criticising them too aren't you ?

 

[Notch7]

Trickle down definitely works

Clueless

 

[Notch7]

Just been in Marks and spencer food hall -- it was packed at 7pm, turkeys can be had for £120, I dont see any cost of living crises there.

Perhaps the people suffering from the cost of living crisis were not in Marks queuing up to buy nothing.

Maybe they stayed at home?

 

[Andydevon]

Comedy Gold again

 

[Notch7]

Plural subjects should be addressed with are, not is

It was written as dialogue though, in which case “there’s two ss in embarrassing ffs” could be appropriate.

Although I guess it would be “two s’s” rather than “two ss” as the ‘s is used to identify the plural. English never my strong point so maybe an English scholar might know

 

[Notch7]

Comedy Gold again

Eh?

If that was directed at my post, perhaps you could explain why you think lots of people buying £120 turkeys in Marks proves there are no people being short of money.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

Clueless

Very good self-awareness

Obviously it works. Rich people get highly taxed, and this goes into public spending that largely benefits those less well off. If nobody was taxed or received benefits then rich people would be richer, and poor people would be poorer.

Whether enough trickles down or not is debatable, but it's an absolute fact that it does happen.

If you taxed "the rich" until they were paying out more than they were receiving then they'd stop doing whatever they were doing. E.g. closing businesses (making all staff redundant), removing investments from the UK (leading to more businesses closing). This makes everyone poorer. In fact you don't have to imagine, it's already happening in the UK.

 

[securespark]

Just been in Marks and spencer food hall -- it was packed at 7pm, turkeys can be had for £120, I dont see any cost of living crises there.

Our 10 lb capon from a local family butcher was way cheaper. A bargain at £70.