The Two Tiers of Patriotism

[ReganAndCarter]

Nowhere was this two tier drivel predicted by either of them.

Maybe not exactly, but if you read Orwell's 1984 large parts of it seem to form Starmer's master plan.

 

[Highway Man]

 

[blup]

Maybe not exactly, but if you read Orwell's 1984 large parts of it seem to form Starmer's master plan.

Read the road to wigan pier, its pretty socialist as was Orwell who seems of late to have become a standard bearer for the right His message was about the extremes of communism in practice, and is equally applicable to dictatorships of the right. Trumpf is a good example of a politician who pushes outright lies yet people believe them even though they know they are lies. That's doublespeak in action. Orwell would have regarded Starmy as right wing, not as a socialist.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Read the road to wigan pier, its pretty socialist as was Orwell who seems of late to have become a standard bearer for the right His message was about the extremes of communism in practice, and is equally applicable to dictatorships of the right. Trumpf is a good example of a politician who pushes outright lies yet people believe them even though they know they are lies. That's doublespeak in action. Orwell would have regarded Starmy as right wing, not as a socialist.

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

It's how 3 word slogans work so effectively

 

[Highway Man]

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

Exactly and you have shown very little of it.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Exactly and you have shown very little of it.

Here comes the reasoned argument

Not just another personal attack, surely

 

[Highway Man]

Here comes the reasoned argument

Not just another personal attack, surely

I do not personally attack anyone, I am merely stating a fact or my thoughts and beliefs, you believe some things that I don't, I don't take it personally

 

[carmanmemoranda]

I do not personally attack anyone, I am merely stating a fact or my thoughts and beliefs, you believe some things that I don't, I don't take it personally

To not take it personally means not being attacked without a reasoned debate.

Read again what you posted

 

[Highway Man]

To not take it personally means not being attacked without a reasoned debate.

Read again what you posted

I have, it is fine

 

[carmanmemoranda]

I have, it is fine

And your lack of understanding shows again

Ok

 

[Highway Man]

And your lack of understanding shows again

Ok

You're welcome

 

[Highway Man]

 

[SPLINE]

Orwell's most true prediction was about the state taking control of every part of a person's existence by brainwashing and surveillance; the subversion of all institutions; the perversion of language (changing the meanings of certain words and banning other words); changing and erasing history, and the twisting of "The Truth". This is absolutely what has happened in modern Britain, under the direction of Tony Blair and his government - and all the governments subsequent to his.

Orwell's real name was Blair, oddly enough.