Bus driver sacked OMG

noseall · 2026-02-04T13:14:56+0000

MNW67 said:
But what about the transitions. That is where it gets complicated for me. When does chasing somebody off as part of preventing a crime, turn into chasing somebody in order to hit them as punishment. In the heat of the moment, a civilian is given quite a lot of leeway.

It's why we have trials, thresholds, laws and rules.

Highway Man · 2026-02-04T13:19:24+0000

noseall said:
It's why we have trials, thresholds laws and rules.

All of which does not involve you, yet here you are spouting laws that you have read on Google when you have real legal eagles trying to tell you that you are wrong, back to cleaning your oven.

motorbiking · 2026-02-04T13:20:47+0000

MNW67 said:
But what about the transitions. That is where it gets complicated for me. When does chasing somebody off as part of preventing a crime, turn into chasing somebody in order to hit them as punishment. In the heat of the moment, a civilian is given quite a lot of leeway.

when you have apprehended them, any further use of force cannot be justified.

MNW67 · 2026-02-04T13:30:57+0000

Keir Starmer in 2008 when DPP re. the Munir Hussain case:

There are many cases, some involving death, where no prosecutions are brought ... We would only ever bring a prosecution where we thought that the degree of force was unreasonable in such a way that the jury would realistically convict. So these are very rare cases and history tells us that the current test works very well.

motorbiking · 2026-02-04T13:40:51+0000

MNW67 said:
Keir Starmer in 2008 when DPP re. the Munir Hussain case:

Munir chased him off the premises and was joined by his brother Tokeer Hussain, who lived a few doors away. Munir and Tokeer brought Salem to the ground in a neighbour's front garden. Salem was then subjected to a ferocious attack which left him with a brain injury and a fractured skull. Witnesses said about four Asian men were seen battering Salem with implements including a hockey stick and cricket bat. One witness pleaded with the attackers to stop, telling them that they were going to kill the man on the ground, but she was disregarded

It wasn't the running up the road with a hokey stick and cricket bat which was the issue, it was the beating to an inch of his life once under their control that was the problem.

morqthana · 2026-02-04T13:47:50+0000

johnny2007 said:
Nutcase, you like your own posts written under several different usernames.
We've been seeing this for years, Himmy.
How difficult is for you to understand that you're not fooling anyone and you never did?
How many times do you have to be told that 99% of members here are waaay smarter and more intelligent than you?

How many times do you and your cronies have to be told that because you have become so blinkered by frequenting echo chambers you have acquired the false impression that your views are shared by such an overwhelming majority of people that it's impossible for there to be more than one person who disagrees with you?

How many times do you have to be told that if you see more than one person here who disagrees with you and who agree with each other that's because there really are multiple people who disagree with you and agree with each other, not that there's one person using multiple IDs?

Same as this ludicrous vocabulary theory. The fact that your vocabulary doesn't include a particular word that doesn't mean that it's so unusual that it's impossible for more than one other poster here to know it. Linky.

Although maybe I shouldn't argue that point with you, because you believing it means that I can't be any of the past IDs I've been accused of, as in nearly 4 years and well over 5,000 posts I've not used that f-word once.

Think on.

JohnD · 2026-02-04T13:57:11+0000

motorbiking said:
Wrong law dummy.

Well that's certainly a very convincing argument demonstrating that the law is what you (drop veiled hints trying to suggest) think it is.

motorbiking · 2026-02-04T14:00:45+0000

JohnD said:
Well that's certainly a very convincing argument demonstrating that the law is what you (drop veiled hints trying to suggest) think it is.

anything to contribute?.... didn't think so.

morqthana · 2026-02-04T14:05:44+0000

motorbiking said:
It wasn't the running up the road with a hokey stick and cricket bat which was the issue, it was the beating to an inch of his life once under their control that was the problem.

I would say there must also have been intent. Carrying things like that wasn't likely to enable them to run faster and thus catch the guy more readily.

Like, for example, if I tackle an intruder in my house, there's a struggle in the kitchen, and I grab a knife and stab him, I believe that it's regarded as different if I tackle him in the living room and stab him with a knife that I took from the kitchen on my way?

I'm sure that I've read of at least one case where A went to confront B in B's house and in a fight had killed or wounded the other, but because they'd taken a knife with them rather than grabbing one whilst there A was charged with murder/attempted murder.

JohnD · 2026-02-04T14:07:20+0000

motorbiking said:
anything to contribute?.... didn't think so.

Yes, I noticed that about your fatuous reply, which I quoted.

motorbiking · 2026-02-04T14:10:52+0000

JohnD said:
Yes, I noticed that about your fatuous reply, which I quoted.

Ahh, so no then.

motorbiking · 2026-02-04T14:22:30+0000

morqthana said:
I would say there must also have been intent. Carrying things like that wasn't likely to enable them to run faster and thus catch the guy more readily.

they had just broken in to your house, tied your family up with the intent of robbing you. A reasonable person would think they may well be armed.

morqthana said:
Like, for example, if I tackle an intruder in my house, there's a struggle in the kitchen, and I grab a knife and stab him, I believe that it's regarded as different if I tackle him in the living room and stab him with a knife that I took from the kitchen on my way?

Self defence does not require you to take defensive steps only. There is no duty to retreat. It would be reasonable to expect an intruder who does not care about if the home is occupied or not, to be armed.

morqthana said:
I'm sure that I've read of at least one case where A went to confront B in B's house and in a fight had killed or wounded the other, but because they'd taken a knife with them rather than grabbing one whilst there A was charged with murder/attempted murder.

which is completely irrelevant

fixitflav · 2026-02-04T14:38:11+0000

motorbiking said:
unless the use of a weapon is not disproportionate.

I wasn't aware a weapon had been used. I read he knocked the other guy (who had attacked him) out with one blow of his fist.

Highway Man · 2026-02-04T14:39:03+0000

morqthana said:
Think on.

Get your own punch lines. I have started so many on here that I am going to have to start charging.
I have brought many quotes to this forum and am finding it irritating that everyone is simply stealing them, I am an amazing brand and as such I have reserved the following quotes.

OMG
I know
Exactly
Reported
Think on..

People may use them with my written consent but I must see the context that they are used first.. Think on...

pete01 · 2026-02-04T14:41:12+0000

Highway Man said:
Get your own punch lines. I have started so many on here that I am going to have to start charging.
I have brought many quotes to this forum and am finding it irritating that everyone is simply stealing them, I am an amazing brand and as such I have reserved the following quotes.

OMG
I know
Exactly
Think on..

People may use them with my written consent but I must see the context that they are used first.. Think on...

I think exactly is mine but whatever

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