Ginger men who now identifies as a woman.

[King Billy]

Snooker? Darts?

In the majority of athletic events, men have long outperformed women. This is due to a combination of factors including physiological differences, societal norms, and legislation.

Women in Endurance Athletics: The Further, the Faster | Biomechanics in the Wild

sites.nd.edu

Women were required to play tennis in long skirts, often paired with corsets and petticoats, from the late 19th century until the 1910s. This restrictive attire was deemed necessary for modesty, but rapidly changed in the 1920s when players like Suzanne Lenglen began wearing shorter skirts to increase mobility on the court.

A short history of tennis skirts

Controversy over shifting hemlines proves that women in sports have long been scrutinized for what they wear.

www.nationalgeographic.com

 

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[pete01]

 

[warey4life]

Strawman argument.

I wasn't an argument, it was stating a fact.

 

[King Billy]

I wasn't an argument, it was stating a fact.

It was your response to an imaginary argument which no-one had posited.

A strawman (or straw man) is a logical fallacy where an opponent’s argument is misrepresented, exaggerated, or fabricated to make it easier to attack. Instead of addressing the actual, nuanced position, the speaker refutes a weak "straw" version of it. It is used in debates to misrepresent, simplify, or distort opposing views.

 

[Elsa TLC]

EDIA]

She didn't apologise either.

 

[JohnD]

Yes it does.

No it doesn't

A space that is reserved exclusively for females may only be used by females.

A space that is reserved exclusively for males may only be used by males.

Spaces that are not reserved exclusively can be used by anyone.

Nobody drags men pretending to be women into men's toilets against their will.

You are pretending not to know the difference between "permitted" and "forced."

Because you hate the idea that men pretending to be women are not permitted into spaces that are reserved exclusively for women.

 

[King Billy]

No it doesn't

Childish retort. Not worth responding to.

A space that is reserved exclusively for females may only be used by females.

To access a female toilet or changing room or safe space for females, you must have a birth cert' stating that you were assigned the sex of female, i.e. like transmen.

A space that is reserved exclusively for males may only be used by males.

Vice versa. To access a space reserved for males you must have a birth cert' stating you were assigned the sex of male at birth, i.e. like transwomen.

Spaces that are not reserved exclusively can be used by anyone.

'Twas ever thus. The Supreme Court judgement didn't change that.

Nobody drags men pretending to be women into men's toilets against their will.

Strawman

You are pretending not to know the difference between "permitted" and "forced."

If a transman wants to use the toilet, he/she has no choice but to use the Female toilet. He/she may be committing an offence if he/she uses the male toilet, and vice versa. Or they can't use the toilet at all, which is not a choice.
They are not permitted to do one thing = they must do the other.
if you are not permitted to drive on the right, you must drive on the left. Or not drive at all.

Because you hate the idea that men pretending to be women are not permitted into spaces that are reserved exclusively for women.

Another strawman because you refuse to accept that the Supreme Court judgement was as erroneous as the situation prior, and gives rise to even further problems.
A transman, to all intents and purposes male, wishing to use a space reserved for single sexes, where no alternative option exists must use the female only spaces, in order to comply with the Supreme Court judgement. They are not permitted to use the male only spaces.
Moreover, if they wish, they are perfectly at liberty, and within the legal framework,to use the single sex space that conforms with their birth cert'.

 

[JohnD]

But the law now requires transmen to use the female spaces.

No it doesn't.

This is false.

You verbose waffling dies not change that fact.

People who are not female are not permitted to use female-only spaces.

Even if they are men pretending to be women.

They are permitted to use places reserved for their real sex, and they are also permitted to use spaces that are not reserved exclusively for women.

I cannot believe that you have never encountered a space that is not reserved exclusively for women.

Therefore it seems that you have dishonestly taken to pretending that somebody drags men who are pretending to be women into male-only spaces and forces them to use the men's toilets. This is not true.

 

[JohnD]

To access a female toilet or changing room or safe space for females, you must have a birth cert' stating that you were assigned the sex of female, i.e. like transmen.

Hahaha haha!

When I am volunteering as Duty Manager at my local Community premises, you think I stand outside the toilet, and changing room doors checking the birth certificates of people before allowing them to enter.

You are mad,

 

[Highway Man]

Hahaha haha!

When I am volunteering as Duty Manager at my local Community premises, you think I stand outside the toilet, and changing room doors checking the birth certificates of people before allowing them to enter.

You are mad,

It might be worth considering putting up signs warning people in order to use the toilet facilities they will need to produce their birth certificates.

 

[JohnD]

It might be worth considering putting up signs warning people in order to use the toilet facilities they will need to produce their birth certificates.

No it won't, because they don't.

He is mad.

 

[Highway Man]

No it won't, because they don't.

He is mad.

You have just noticed?

 

[King Billy]

You verbose waffling dies not change that fact.

You are the expert, coupled with strawman arguments, it's word salad.

People who are not female are not permitted to use female-only spaces.

I.e transmen, who have a birth cert' stating they are biological female, are permitted to use female only spaces.
So transmen, who appear to be male can use those spaces, but transwomen who appear to be women can't.

Even if they are men pretending to be women.

Transwomen are not pretending. They have adopted the gender of a female, a woman.
Is your bigotry so entrenched you still refuse to acknowledge the difference between sex and gender?

They are permitted to use places reserved for their real sex, and they are also permitted to use spaces that are not reserved exclusively for women.

They are obliged to use the spaces reserved according to the sex printed on their birth cert, like transmen. And they may, if they wish, use unuisex spaces.
Correct!

I cannot believe that you have never encountered a space that is not reserved exclusively for women.

Strawman
I cannot believe you are reduced to writing such nonsense.

Therefore it seems that you have dishonestly taken to pretending that somebody drags men who are pretending to be women into male-only spaces and forces them to use the men's toilets. This is not true.

Another strawman.
Therefore it seems that you must be scraping the barrel now, being reduced to so many strawmen arguments.

 

[JohnD]

You are the expert

Thank you.

But no need for your verbosity and word salad when you keep making false claims.