England council results

That's pretty much what Stammering Starmer was rambling about yesterday. His conclusion was that the British public had all voted wrong.

Pathetic.
The British electorate have a habit of voting against their own interests, largely because they are lied to by people like Farage and Johnson. Brexit is a fine example.
 
With their experience level, and Starmer's cluelessness, they'll actually be running the country. Starmer will be the notional elected figurehead.

We're meant to be a democracy.
yea great choice , Gordon who calls labour voters bigots , and puts someone in charge of women and children that was a member of PIE
 
I live in London.
2 trips to tourists areas don't give you the exact picture of what London has become.
Try residential areas on the outskirt of London and be afraid, very afraid.
Favelas are safer.
My Mrs' auntie lives in Hayes, and she has an uncle who is a London cabby lives with his girlfriend near Wembley somewhere. They like living in London and we like visiting.
My Mrs family all came from London so we go up most years.
 
Imo far to
Much is being read into these council elections

And in any event it has given the main stream parties a long due kick up the arris / wake up
Call

Starmer is a decent enough sort of a bloke ? But a hopeless PM who seems incapable of getting a decisive grip on the issues that are of concern

Greens bunch of extremist lunatics attempting to take over an asylum winning London boroughs by playing the palistinian / hamas anti Israel card that appeals to Islamic community and the dead beat / get a job fruit cakes supporting them an issue that has fa to do with the UK

As for reform they will come up against tactical voting caper / stitch up in any future general election
Is Starmmer incapable, he’s doing alright on the international stage, and has his hands tied by world economic conditions and post brexhit horlicks created by Johnson.
 
My Mrs' auntie lives in Hayes, and she has an uncle who is a London cabby lives with his girlfriend near Wembley somewhere. They like living in London and we like visiting.
My Mrs family all came from London so we go up most years.

I've not been to London for donkeys years now. Having been born there and much of my youth spent visiting relatives there and later years working occasionally there I've always had a love/hate relationship with the place. About 20 years ago we'd go in once a month, do Covent Garden and Chinatown for some grub, the Mrs started to find it a bit 'edgy' toward the end and the trips tailed off.
Whilst I dread to think what it's like now, I'm constantly thinking about a city break there, maybe 3 days, visit the old haunts. My family were in Victoria, Chelsea and Battersea where I was born.
Battersea was rough as rats when I was young but from what I gather it's become quite gentrified now, Wandsworth even more so.
It struck me when I used to work in St Johns Wood that no matter how nice the area, you were never more than 3 or 4 streets away from a rough area.
 
Not so sure that starmer will quit ? Or even get kicked out by his own party ??

Even if he does ? Or is ? Doubt if it will
Make much difference ?

Fact is starmer and others in the party have labelled (?) a large section of the electorate as right wing racist bigots ?? And good few of them previously voted him into office with a landslide victory ? 2 years ago

wales is a good example

Labour were the party of the working class not any more ?? Most of there MPs are not working class probably none of em

What’s Starmers worth ???

Hilary benn

Milliband

And others

Millionaires ???

Yes exactly
 
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