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[Avocet]

that seems to be quite standard, my toyota van has the 8 years 100,000 on the battery and 10 years on the rest of it


probably burst into flames long before that though

It's standard because it's a legal requirement in the UK.

 

[Elsa TLC]

Had my current diesel van for 7 years, total cost including purchase, repairs and servicing has worked out at less than 30 pound a week, no electric van could come close to those figures, most of my driving is local, but had to go to Andover a few weeks ago, and drove there and back without refueling, using a similar size ev van i would of had to stop and charge 4 times at least.

What van have you got Charlie?

 

[Avocet]

toyota ev city pro-ace or something

It's a Peugeot Partner with a Toyota badge stuck on it. You won't have to worry about spares availability!

 

[Avocet]

Substitute 'some products' for all & you're on the money.
Cars, white goods, electrical goods ..

Yet here we are, with them lasting longer than ever before...?

 

[Elsa TLC]

No chance of any new diesel vehicle lasting 10 years. All the pollution reduction crap stuck in them now makes them complex and unreliable.

The garage that looks after my van said just that. The blue stuff doesn't help matters, im told.

 

[Elsa TLC]

It's a Peugeot Partner with a Toyota badge stuck on it. You won't have to worry about spares availability!

10 years warranty. You wont get thst on a Fiat, Peugeot or a vauxhall

 

[Charlie George]

What van have you got Charlie?

Vauxhall combo, it's been a great runaround, cheap insurance, parts, servicing etc, average 45 mpg, good payload for a small van, my 3 year old car has done only 4000 miles because i always grab the van keys when i nip out

 

[Avocet]

at the moment yes
I'm with Octopus and their EV tariff gves me 7p per kWh for 5 hours a night, still just using a 3 pin plug (2kw) and that gives me about 30 miles per night, or 210 per week

if I fitted a proper 6kW charger that would be 90 mile per night from the cheap 5 hour window

we also have a diesel car so I have no issues if i suddenly needed to make a long journey (and with a very elderly parent that is possible)

Should be 6 hours of cheap electricity per night with Intelligent Octopus Go.

 

[Avocet]

10 years warranty. You wont get thst on a Fiat, Peugeot or a vauxhall

Built by Stellantis in Spain (Vigo)! (And I can assure you, about as Japanese as my Alfa)! Toyota and PSA have been collaborating for many years. It always cracks me up how some people won't touch a Citroen C1 but would pay extra for a Toyota Aygo! They were built at a jointly owned Peugeot / Citroen / Toyota plant in the Czech Republic for many years, by exactly the same people using exactly the same parts, except badges.

I can assure you the Vauxhall Combo, Fiat Doblo and Peugeot Partner (and Toyota ProAce City) are all the same vehicle. The first three are currently being built at Ellesmere Port! The Toyota is built in a Spanish plant. No Japanese involved...

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[Munroast]

It's a Peugeot Partner with a Toyota badge stuck on it. You won't have to worry about spares availability!

its a stelliantis from spain -

Should be 6 hours of cheap electricity per night with Intelligent Octopus Go.

its on a 3 pin plug and not sure if van is intellignt ?
anyways I prefer to limit charge though my own software, then I can mostly limit it to 80%
(and also stop my stupid growatt system draining the solar batteries)

lots of confusion and dif stories about looking after the batteries, unlike solar power batteries that are happy with 100%, these environment destroying cobalt (nmc) EV batteries become highly unstable at 100% and best not to exceed 80% unless a long journey is immanently planned and even then only risk that on a cold day

some say take them to 100% at least once per moth to balance up the cells, some say too risky, and others say just take them to 100% every day - this is the problem with the motor industry, too many people in it talk utter bo||ocks

 

[flameport]

its on a 3 pin plug and not sure if van is intellignt ?

It isn't, if you wanted that version of Octopus Go you will need a compatible EVSE.
Or just use the standard Octopus Go which works with anything, but is slightly more expensive.

lots of confusion and dif stories about looking after the batteries,

For NMC cells:
keep between 20% and 80% most of the time

If it gets down below 20%, recharge as soon as possible to get above 20% (common sense since if you don't you won't be going anywhere)
if charging to 100%, drive somewhere shortly after (also common sense because the only time you are charging to 100% is when you need it for a long journey)

Definitely charge to 100% sometimes, as that is the only time the cell balancing will be active. This means plug in on AC and leave powered until the vehicle stops the charging, which could be an hour or even more after it gets to 100%.

Don't charge above 80% on DC rapid charging because it will take forever. If it's absolutely necessary to charge to 100% at some public place, disconnect at about 80% and then use an AC charger for the rest. It will still take a long time but you won't be blocking a DC charger for an hour or more.

And for stellantis wagons in particular:
don't bother trying to DC rapid charge when the external temperature is below about -5C, because it won't.
if you want any data such as battery state of health, cell voltages and all the rest, then you will need an OBD bluetooth dongle and a phone app, or a very expensive scan tool.

 

[Munroast]

how often to a 100% ( I was thinking once every couple of month)
and is there any truth that you should occasionally let it go down to below 20 ? (i'm thinking not but some people say so, inc an EV salesman)

 

[Elsa TLC]

Built by Stellantis in Spain (Vigo)! (And I can assure you, about as Japanese as my Alfa)! Toyota and PSA have been collaborating for many years. It always cracks me up how some people won't touch a Citroen C1 but would pay extra for a Toyota Aygo! They were built at a jointly owned Peugeot / Citroen / Toyota plant in the Czech Republic for many years, by exactly the same people using exactly the same parts, except badges.

I can assure you the Vauxhall Combo, Fiat Doblo and Peugeot Partner (and Toyota ProAce City) are all the same vehicle. The first three are currently being built at Ellesmere Port! The Toyota is built in a Spanish plant. No Japanese involved...

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The Toyota Proace City is a very good small van, regardless of whether you prefer the diesel or the electric version. Where the Toyota has an advantage over the near-identical Stellantis versions is its extendable warranty and roadside assistance offering.

www.thevanexpert.co.uk

Companies have always done this. Remember when Vauxhall first released the Vivaro? Renault had the Traffic. More or less tye same van as opposed to lights , grill and a couple of other cosmetic things.

My new Traffic was an 03 plate. While I had it. It was a good van. And I think the traffic was in general.

But I kept hearing bad things on the reliability of the Vivaro. They were to my knowledge all built in Bedfordshire, including the Opel version.

Could it not be that the diffrent companies use diffrent quality parts put together by the same men and women on the shop floor?

 

[Elsa TLC]

This is confusing me. Why is this van so cheap?

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I know its a ford. That said you wouldn't get a ford for the same money.
The range is over 200 miles

 

[Elsa TLC]

This has a range of 82 miles. But it must be of some benefit to someone . It maybe a glorified milk float but wouldn't it be beneficial for a milkman of someone doing short local journeys hmm?

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