Floating sockets..

I'll stick with a C3 improvement recommended....if it isn't addressed it might be perfectly fine or it might end up a C2 potentially dangerous.
OK - but that's sort-of 'sitting on the fence' as regards the current reg's wording of what C2 and C3 mean.

One thing I think is clear - an EICR is meant to be a report of the installation at the time of the inspection - so I don't think that "what something might end up as" really comes into it. Hence, if you feel the situation is 'potentially dangerous' at the time of the inspection you should obviously give a C2, but if you don't feel that, you certainly should not give a C2, and arguably not any code at all. I personally don't think it makes sense, or is 'intended', that you should give a C3 to something because, although it does not deserve a code at the time of the inspection, it 'might end up' deserving a C2 at some point in the future!
This is a three phase sub main I found a few weeks back I gave this a C2 as it could be
drove over. .... bad workmanship, ... cable isnt support throughout its run ... people were lifting it up to get fork lifts in and out etc.

But you would give this no code, yes?
Definitely coded. As you say, C2 ....
522.6.1 Wiring systems shall be selected and erected so as to minimize the damage arising from mechanical
stress, e.g. by impact, abrasion, penetration, tension or compression during installation, use or maintenance.
To attempt to clarify even further, given the regs as they are, it's the C3 that I have problems with. If one's opinion is that something presents a 'potential danger' (which I would say your illustrated cable does - a cable that is likely to be driven over, or insulted by tools, is a totally different kettle of fish from one behind a DW!), then it's a C2 - but if one's opinion is that it does not present a 'potential danger' then I don't see why one should be 'recommending improvement'.
 
but if one's opinion is that it does not present a 'potential danger' then I don't see why one should be 'recommending improvement'.
Because it isn't potentially dangerous but the cable isn’t clipped or designed to be trailing and the back box which is designed to be screwed to something isn't...

Shall we agree to disagree?
 
Because it isn't potentially dangerous but the cable isn’t clipped or designed to be trailing and the back box which is designed to be screwed to something isn't...
Shall we agree to disagree?
I think we'll have to!

I think that (in the absence of anything useful from the regs) it really comes down to how one interprets 'potentially dangerous' since, in terms of my personal interpretation of it, if it is not "potentially dangerous', it can't be 'improved' (in relation to safety), so does not really require a code. On the other hand, if it's given a C3 because it is believed that 'improvement' would make it 'safer' (less 'potentially dangerous), then it probably should (in terms of current regs) have been given a C2. That's not necessarily 'sensible', but it seems (to me) to be 'correct' in terms of what the regs currently say.

I don't really have anything new or different to say!
 
I think we'll have to!

I think that (in the absence of anything useful from the regs) it really comes down to how one interprets 'potentially dangerous' since, in terms of my personal interpretation of it, if it is not "potentially dangerous', it can't be 'improved' (in relation to safety), so does not really require a code. On the other hand, if it's given a C3 because it is believed that 'improvement' would make it 'safer' (less 'potentially dangerous), then it probably should (in terms of current regs) have been given a C2. That's not necessarily 'sensible', but it seems (to me) to be 'correct' in terms of what the regs currently say.

I don't really have anything new or different to say!
I would love to hear what EFLI would say about this.....hopefully he comes back and puts us right ;)
 

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