Kitchen light suggestions

[SUNRAY]

the ideal lighting for a kitchen (hence what there is to discuss, and what advice will be given) surely does not differ according to whether the occupier of the property is an owner, tenant or 'customer', does it?

certainly does. It's certainly probable that I put different lighting into my rental properties than in my own home.

 

[securespark]

You may think my garage lighting is way OTT.

But I find it just great, and to be fair, the rest of the family haven't gone, "Cor blimey, me retinas!", after going out there...

 

[SUNRAY]

I have no idea, which is why I'm asking for advice. However you are talking about more than 3 times the light (lumens or lux) that I'm currently experiencing, and that is very far from being 'unusable'

for a kitchen of that size I believe the light levels FP is talking about sound eminently appropriate

Of course it is - and what level of lighting one likes in a room must be high up on the lists of 'the most subjective things'!

Fair enough - I was merely echoing the product descriptions in what you linked to. However, as I keep saying "just60W" sounds/feels like an awful lot of LED lighting for one room.

Well as I keep saying my kitchen is 3 * 6m and lit by three 5ft fluo's (originally 255W, now 180W) above prismatic ceiling tiles and nobody has ever commented it's too bright, in fact the opposite is true as any comments have always been positive.

As you keep saying 20W or so is equivalent to a 5ft fluo and 3 of them... bingo 60W

 

[JohnW2]

for a kitchen of that size I believe the light levels FP is talking about sound eminently appropriate

I obviously cannot ignore the fact that you are all saying much the same.

It does seem to make sense to have two 5' fittings (in-line, down the middle of the fairly long room), rather than just one in the middle - so, rather than go with just one of flameport's 60W ('twin') one, it would probably make sense to have two of the 30W ('single') versions. What do you think? The only downside of that is that having two (but same total Watts and lumens) would cost twice as much, since the 60W and 30W versions are the identical price (which presumably implies that the cost of the actual 'LED elements' is pretty 'negligible'!).

Mind you, moving to aesthetics, I don't think I would necessarily want ('nostalgic'?!) ones which looked as if they contained tubes (although they don't), and might prefer 'electrically similar' 'panel' ones.

As you keep saying 20W or so is equivalent to a 5ft fluo and 3 of them... bingo 60W

I haven't said anything about 'equivalent' - 'equivalent' in relation to what? In terms of light output my 17W LED tube (not far from 20W) produces 2,300 lumens whereas I think most 58W 5' fluoros are said to produce about 5,200 lumens. That doesn't sound very 'equivalent' to me

 

[JohnW2]

You may think my garage lighting is way OTT. ... But I find it just great, and to be fair, the rest of the family haven't gone, "Cor blimey, me retinas!", after going out there...

Fair enough. As I've just written to Sunray, I can't ignore the fact that you are alkl saying much the same. Thanks for your input!

 

[JohnW2]

certainly does. It's certainly probable that I put different lighting into my rental properties than in my own home.

Are you just talking about cost?

I was talking explicitly about the ideal lighting for the kitchen concerned, and I still don't believe that would be different depending whether the occupant was the owner, a tenant or 'a customer'

As for cost, I might well be prepared to pay more to get closer to the ideal than I would pay for a tenant, and if it were a customer, they would make the ultimate decision after being appraised of the options and respective prices - but none of that is anything to do with the 'ideal' lighting.

 

[SUNRAY]

Are you just talking about cost?

Not particularly, To me rental properties need to be easy to keep in good working order so simple lighting, easy to open and repair, no tracks, nothing thats easily broken etc. Value for money rather than actual cost.

I was talking explicitly about the ideal lighting for the kitchen concerned, and I still don't believe that would be different depending whether the occupant was the owner, a tenant or 'a customer'

There is always more than one ideal option. In one property (now sold) I fitted 2 15W LED bathroom lights in the kitchen, very much like these

I had to replace one in a bathroom and a nearby wholesaler were clearing their stock reduced from something like £15 - £20 to £5. there were 6 in the pile and I got them at £20. I sorted the bathroom and very shortly after they were still in the car when the kitchen problem in another property with one of the two batten holders occurred.

As for cost, I might well be prepared to pay more to get closer to the ideal than I would pay for a tenant, and if it were a customer, they would make the ultimate decision after being appraised of the options and respective prices - but none of that is anything to do with the 'ideal' lighting.

 

[JohnW2]

Not particularly, To me rental properties need to be easy to keep in good working order so simple lighting, easy to open and repair, no tracks, nothing thats easily broken etc. Value for money rather than actual cost.

Fair enough, but as an owner-occupier, and certainly if I were someone's 'customer', I might also want "...simple lighting, easy to open and repair, no tracks, nothing thats easily broken etc." - so that's not necessarily unique to rental properties.