Carrier bags

[Bahco]

Good idea to cut right down on disposable carriers but a lot of people use them to put domestic rubbish in so in effect this will increase the demand for bin liners.

Instead of using plastic to make carriers, it will be used to make bin liners so cancelling out the benefit to the planet.

I will have to start buying bin liners now!

 

[Bilioustrumpstaine]

shhhhh they will hear you.....

New green tax on bin bags coming to a superstore near you soon.

 

[Richardp]

I use plastic bags but after this batch I'll go with paper.
I had a visit last year from a salesman, she said she could supply me with plastic bags the same as the one's I have but with my name on at the same price, No way would I want my name on them!! that would be negative advertising. she didnt understand.
just been looking for paper bags, this is what I found on the Defra website:-
''Paper bags are derived from a renewable resource, however the manufacturing process is resource intensive. Also paper bags are heavier than plastic bags and therefore require more energy to transport and result in greater emissions.''
''The plastic bag industry wants us to stop regarding them as disposable, but this is just not going to happen: they are the world's most ubiquitous single-use item. And converting to 'degradable' or 'biodegradable' cornstarch plastic is hardly a good use of food crops.

Neither are paper bags a clever use of trees - take note, Primark. They also use six times the raw materials required by plastic bags, three times the energy for manufacture, are six times heavier for the same volume, and require seven times the amount of transport and associated emissions.''
I think I'll go back to plastic bags and save the planet

 

[tim west]

what about paper bags with plastic handles or vice versa?

 

[Richardp]

well I've just been having a good look around the www looking for alternative bags, and decided that its not the plastic bags but the way we dispose of them, we have to take some responsibility for our own actions, we say we don't want a nanny state but expect the powers that be to stop us using them nasty bags,

 

[solo]

What about old bags? Should we tax them as well?

 

[Steve]

How do they make plastic bags? When you peel one off the dispenser, it always feels like your the first person to ever separate the plastic - so how do they print them and glue the handles and bottoms together etc. We get them in batches of 100, wrapped in a clear bag and in a cardboard box of 5 batches. Our shop, which takes £32000 a week, gets through about 5 boxes a week.

The Co-operative fairtrade cotton carrier bags are only 99p. Made of unbleached cotton, they have created 300 jobs for workers in 3rd world countries, and are the first fairtrade cotton carrier bag on the market. Buy one today and do your bit for 3rd world communities.

 

[Richardp]

Is it organic cotton?
none organic cotton is full of nasty chemicals.
mine must be weather resistant so cotton is out.

 

[tim west]

Is it organic cotton?
none organic cotton is full of nasty chemicals.
mine must be weather resistant so cotton is out.

with the weather we've been having recently lead lined would be better, stop it blowing away

 

[Richardp]

and stops the effects of kryptonite.

 

[Thermo]

oh oh oh im a politician what green issue can i jump on next or use to raise taxes with next. Personally i think its all a load of *******s and im sick to death of it all. Its taken over from political correctness now. Most suggestions are ill thought out, dont work, or are done to raise money.

 

[Ricky2]

Our Recycle Operator in Cornwall demands we put all our old glass bottles in plastic bags. Is he now operating outside the law?

 

[megawatt]

Don't bother recycling at all ... Total waste of an already far too short existence.

This is something local authorities should provide funded from community charges.

As a result of tipping restrictions on refuse sites in the Devon area (in the name of recycling) Dartmoor National Park is now seeing a huge increase in the amount of fly tipping in areas of outstanding natural beauty. And, what the local authorities haven't twigged yet, is that it will cost them far more to deal with this issue than to provide a better refuse site service in the first place.

If it wasn't making such a mess of the landscape I'd be laughing my c**k off.

local authority beaurocrats should be assassinated ... Anyone know a good hitman/woman

MW

 

[solo]

Cliff Richard. He's had loads of hits.

 

[wobs]

How do they make plastic bags? When you peel one off the dispenser, it always feels like your the first person to ever separate the plastic -

Sounds like it doesn't have enough amide in them. Without amide you wouldn't be able to open plastic bottles, or seperate plastic bags.

Biodegradeable bags are becoming more available, and not the starch stuff which isn't recycleable. Oxo-bio plastics degrade after a pre-determined time, and don't give off methane when they rot down.

I'm always refusing plastic bags for things like a bottle of milk from my local stores, and sometimes remind them that there's no such thing as a free plastic bag (this includes Co-op)

We tend to use heavy duty plastic bags which last years, and can be recycled at the end of their life.

The issue of paper bags is one of fuel consumption. Ikea scrapped paper bags when they realised that it involved more transport to get the bulkier paper bags to each store.