The death penalty.

[megawatt]

Good to see you are in a better mood today

 

[sooey]

To the people who say that the death penalty is no deterrant, you have a point, but perhaps that is just an argument to say that it should be carried out in public. With today's instant communications the punishment could be beamed all over the world. We could have national competitions, with each country gaining points for dreaming up ever more barbaric ways to "off" the miscreants. It would be like "It's a knockout", maybe we could get Stuart Hall to do the honours. After seeing all these paedos and killers being eaten by lions or pulled apart between horses, I think you'd find it would be a pretty good deterrant to most people with an ounce of self preservation.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Good to see you are in a better mood today

I'm in the same mood I was yesterday, and the day before...

 

[sooey]

Good to see you are in a better mood today

I'm in the same mood I was yesterday, and the day before...

Still a miserable b****d then?

 

[ban-all-sheds]

To the people who say that the death penalty is no deterrant, you have a point, but perhaps that is just an argument to say that it should be carried out in public. With today's instant communications the punishment could be beamed all over the world. We could have national competitions, with each country gaining points for dreaming up ever more barbaric ways to "off" the miscreants. It would be like "It's a knockout", maybe we could get Stuart Hall to do the honours. After seeing all these paedos and killers being eaten by lions or pulled apart between horses, I think you'd find it would be a pretty good deterrant to most people with an ounce of self preservation.

And here we see, boys and girls, a classic demonstration of the intellectual capacity and policy forming abilities of a typical supporter of punishment killings.

 

[sooey]

And here we see, boys and girls, a classic demonstration of the intellectual capacity and policy forming abilities of a typical supporter of punishment killings.

So, you reckon that seeing something like that wouldn't act as a deterrant then?

 

[joe-90]

They tried that didn't they? Wasn't his name Nick Berg?

 

[sooey]

They tried that didn't they? Wasn't his name Nick Berg?

Just googled that poor bugger, and think that was a pretty crappy reply.

 

[Softus]

Just in case you don't read Softus's post BAS ...

There's no "just in case" - having clicked this the contents of his posts are not displayed.

Another lie. The contents are masked only after you've logged in, and I know perfectly well that you've inadvertently read, and responded to, something I've written since you threw your toys out of the cot.

I really could not care less.

Another lie. If the amount you cared was zero then you wouldn't even bother writing that.

I ignore him because I place zero value on everything he says, therefore any insults mean nothing to me because I place zero value on his opinions.

You give the impression of thinking that that's somehow impressive, but it isn't. My opinions aren't of zero value, so your valuation is clearly warped, which throws into doubt much of what you think.

Have him banned if that pleases you - from my POV he doesn't exist anyway.

Well, that's a rather childish non-sequitur. But if anyone wants to have me banned then please just click on the "Ban This User" button.

 

[sooey]

One, just one, innocent person deliberately killed by the state more than negates any other savings in lives, no matter how many.

This can only mean that if an innocent person is mistakenly put to death by the state, you would feel morally guilty, (Fair enough). Yet no matter how many innocent people are put to death by individuals, you don't have to feel morally guilty because you feel as though you are detached from these acts. Yet if people are dying, when as a society we have measures that would help to reduce those numbers, how can you feel morally detached from that?

 

[ban-all-sheds]

It's not a case of feeling morally detached.

I'm sure that we could dream up all manner of outrageous and cruel punishments that would be effective as deterrents and prevention of re-offending for virtually any offence.

Want to stop speeding? OK - let's allow the police to summarily kill offenders right there by the roadside, or if caught on camera, to come round to the offenders house and kill not only the driver but all og his family.

Effective? I think it would be.

Acceptable? I think not.

Ditto killing anybody for any reason. It matters not how effective it is, it is unacceptable.

 

[sooey]

It's not a case of feeling morally detached.

I think it is.

I'm sure that we could dream up all manner of outrageous and cruel punishments that would be effective as deterrents and prevention of re-offending for virtually any offence.

So the point of my "it's a knockout" post wasn't lost on you entirely then? Anyway I'm glad that we agree that the death penalty could be made into an effective deterrant, if it isn't one already.

Ditto killing anybody for any reason. It matters not how effective it is, it is unacceptable.

To you.[/quote]

 

[ban-all-sheds]

It's not a case of feeling morally detached.

I think it is.

You have absolutely no grounds to argue about morality if you want to kill people.

I'm sure that we could dream up all manner of outrageous and cruel punishments that would be effective as deterrents and prevention of re-offending for virtually any offence.

So the point of my "it's a knockout" post wasn't lost on you entirely then? Anyway I'm glad that we agree that the death penalty could be made into an effective deterrant, if it isn't one already.

Utterly irrelevant - extreme, violent and cruel punishments can be effective, but that does not make them acceptable. We do not decide on punishments purely on the grounds of how effective they are.

Ditto killing anybody for any reason. It matters not how effective it is, it is unacceptable.

To you.

And the point of that facile comment is?

 

[sooey]

You have absolutely no grounds to argue about morality if you want to kill people.

I could argue exactly the same about you if you want to stand by and let real innocent people be murdered when it might be possible to prevent it.

Utterly irrelevant - extreme, violent and cruel punishments can be effective, but that does not make them acceptable. We do not decide on punishments purely on the grounds of how effective they are.

More's the pity, if we did we wouldn't be on the verge of anarchy.

And the point of that facile comment is?

I thought that was obvious, the death penalty is unacceptable to you as everybody is aware, your opinions count for no more than mine or anybody else's in our society. Eventually, if the downward spiral into lawlessness continues, there will be more and more pressures exerted on those decision makers who think like you to wake up.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

I could argue exactly the same about you if you want to stand by and let real innocent people be murdered when it might be possible to prevent it.

I see. You are so hard of thinking, and so primitive and violent that the only solution you want is to kill people.

More's the pity, if we did we wouldn't be on the verge of anarchy.

We're not, except in the malfunctioning "minds" of violent thugs like you.

I thought that was obvious, the death penalty is unacceptable to you as everybody is aware,

And it's acceptable to you and the other killers, as everybody is aware.

your opinions count for no more than mine or anybody else's in our society.

I disagree, for mine are the opinions of an intelligent person who is not a killer.

Eventually, if the downward spiral into lawlessness continues, there will be more and more pressures exerted on those decision makers who think like you to wake up.

Dream on, you degenerate.