This is the healthcare we voted for with Brexit - Lets Do It

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They suffered because of bad management using inferior materials and using a poor unskilled workforce...

Are you sticking up for these big greedy corporate companies? Do you think they did nothing wrong? do you not think there was plenty of brown envelopes flying around... Have you ever questioned how inferior builds or renovations get passed.???

Surely the argument you have is 'Im not happy about EU workers on London construction sites and I see leaving the EU as the solution'.
 
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They suffered because of bad management using inferior materials and using a poor unskilled workforce...

Are you sticking up for these big greedy corporate companies? Do you think they did nothing wrong? do you not think there was plenty of brown envelopes flying around... Have you ever questioned how inferior builds or renovations get passed.???
I'm baffled with the above script (as is Notch) as to your analogy you drew with us leaving the EU without a deal.
Bad management? Eh?
 
I don't know what point you wanted to argue.

Attaching links to documents doesn't do it.....

.....But the NHS price (not per dose, but per pack of 28) is much less

Harvoni 90mg/400mg tablets (Gilead Sciences International Ltd) ▼

Active ingredients Size Unit NHS indicative price Drug tariff Drug tariff price

....28 tablet (POM) £12,993.33 — —
https://bnf.nice.org.uk/medicinal-forms/ledipasvir-with-sofosbuvir.html

28 tablets for £12,993 is not $22,000 per pill

Your linked article is nonsense.

NICE seems to say that Peginterferon is usually more appropriate.


This is address in the very same essay:
"... So good work, Britain. You’re paying $22,000 instead of $32,000 for a $100 pill."

And Sovaldi is actually a bit cheaper to the NHS.

Hooray for NICE and NHS buying power!

BTW, if you have a point to make, please say what it is rather than attaching links and hoping people will agree with whatever it is you have in mind.
 
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Im getting the impression this is the core reason why you voted Leave?


It was and is. I really like most immigrants in this country. What I don't get is the arrogance of the rich who think its OK to lump an entire workforce from the EU and care nowt the impact it would have on peoples lives
and cultures... Other industry's like the NHS is suffering because of pure lazyness from managment. Local and national government. None of this is the fault of the EU nationals as they in general hard working good people. But the toffs at the top think problems are solved by chucking numbers at it.

Control. Good managment.
 
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I'm baffled with the above script (as is Notch) as to your analogy you drew with us leaving the EU without a deal.
Bad management? Eh?

I was given a vote.... In or out... I chose out. ... It didn't give me ifs or buts. Just in or out.


Now can you answer my questions.
 
They suffered because of bad management using inferior materials and using a poor unskilled workforce...

Are you sticking up for these big greedy corporate companies? Do you think they did nothing wrong? do you not think there was plenty of brown envelopes flying around... Have you ever questioned how inferior builds or renovations get passed.???
I disagree with bad management.

How will resigning from the EU have anything to do with your gripe regards the above?

Both me and Notchy are baffled at to where you are going with it.
 
Surely the argument you have is 'Im not happy about EU workers on London construction sites and I see leaving the EU as the solution'.


We had a sh!t building industry before the EU migration... From your analogy chucking Eastern Europe at the Problem is the answer. All that ever did was feed the greed... Theres no care and attention in the industry. Buying a house is for most of us the biggest investment we will ever take out.. Do you think new home owners are getting value for money..
 
I disagree with bad management.

How will resigning from the EU have anything to do with your gripe regards the above?

Both me and Notchy are baffled at to where you are going with it.


You and your mate Notchy?

No body LISTENS. Jo isn't listening. Tony never listened. David never listened.

Then I got a vote.
Funny.
It's got your attention but still no one is listening..
 
Now can you answer my questions.

Is that Bodd talking?

Why don't you tell us in what way you think the UK will be better off as a result of resigning from the EU?
 
28 tablets for £12,993 is not $22,000 per pill
Your linked article is nonsense.
The linked article is from 2016 so I'm not sure why you're complaining about a single figure which was presumably correct in 2016.
Your complaint doesn't even make sense since the conclusion still holds:

"So good work, Britain. You’re paying $15,813 instead of $???? for a $100 pill."

BTW, if you have a point to make, please say what it is rather than attaching links and hoping people will agree with whatever it is you have in mind.
The linked articles were in reponse to allal; maybe read the actual thread if you want to understand why someone posts something. And then read the full articles if you want to understand the overview of what is being argued, and comment on that, don't just scan the first paragraph for a single number and then try to debunk in a way that turns out not to make any sense.
 
From your analogy chucking Eastern Europe at the Problem is the answer.

No, Im trying to understand your argument.

The problem with Brexit is that the arguments are driven by conflating cause and effect.

You are arguing two different points. one is the poor new build sector by the big 6 and the other is EU migration of tradesmen.

You tend to go around in circles, conflating one argument with another -understanding Brexit means defining the issues and focusing on the real causes.
 
When?

Are you saying that because house builders suffered at the hands of an inevitable financial global crash, an avoidable (no-deal) Brexit is somehow OK?

Really?




Do you think I should have voted to remain along with the building industry that were over pricing land and property . The banking industry that got us into the mess in the first place and the government who bowd the banking industry out of their mess...

The Government, the crooked mile (banking industry) and the building industry.. Were all campaining to remain in the EU... And you wonder why I voted out?
 
Is that Bodd talking?

Why don't you tell us in what way you think the UK will be better off as a result of resigning from the EU?


I don't believe I have ever said we will be better off. Nor will the EU....

I had a vote. No one was listening so I vote out
 
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