1 new double socket on ring

[lmhud]

Thanks for help guys. Went with version 2. Then ran spur from the extended ring.
All working.
Photo 1. Ring
2 version
3 extended ring
4 spur.

 

[lmhud]

View attachment 211681 View attachment 211682 View attachment 211683 View attachment 211685 Thanks for help guys. Went with version 2. Then ran spur from the extended ring.
All working.
Photo 1. Ring
2 version
3 extended ring
4 spur.

 

[DetlefSchmitz]

It doesn't look like the cables are all being run in safe zones. You may wish to read up on that.

 

[lmhud]

It doesn't look like the cables are all being run in safe zones. You may wish to read up on that.

Thanks. They will be going inder the floorboards, is that not okay ?

 

[DetlefSchmitz]

Yeah, that's ok.

 

[lmhud]

Yeah, that's ok.

Thanks for your help and advice. It’s appreciated.

 

[winston1]

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I’m confused by that as it says this

You are confused because the second paragraph is wrong (though the first is right).

It is also impossible to overload the ring if the 2 spurs are not connected near the end of the ring.

 

[denso13]

It is also impossible to overload the ring if the 2 spurs are not connected near the end of the ring.

And Banallsheds has said that exact same thing many times on the Screwfix forums. You stole that idea from him.....

 

[ericmark]

I have questioned how this

is permitted but putting cables behind skirting boards is not?

Safe zones does not include behind skirting, See here.

As to loading on a ring final it would depend on the current rating of the cable, but if 20 amp and drawing 32 amp on 106 meters, then to be within want 20 amp and 12 amp split so first 39 meters from consumer unit could be over loaded, however it is unlikely to be over loaded for long, or by any great amount and to get that load would need at least 3 socket outlets or an unfused spur drawing need maximum, so it is recommended that any equipment over 2 kW which is not portable has a dedicated supply, as portable appliances are unlikely to cause an over load for long enough to cause a problem.

There seems to be two exceptions to being portable and drawing maximum for an extended time, the blow up hot tub, and the electric car. The built in oven, washing machine and tumble drier may take the load for an extended time, as with the immersion heater, but they are not portable as over the weight limit and not on wheels, and fixed in some way in the main so if the recommendations are followed should have a dedicated supply.

One would not expect a load of full 13 amp on multi-sockets in a bed room, however the problem arises where the bedroom is used for some thing else, in my old house we use to keep cloths and sheets etc up stairs in the wardrobes or airing cupboard, and would get undressed and dressed up stairs, so had tumble drier up stairs, never put washing machine up there, but can see why some one would, I have never really worked out how washing cloths and cooking food go together? this house we have an utility room, however the point is people can re-assign a bedroom as a laundry room, so because all you will plug in now is a bed side lamp, that does not mean that will still be case in 20 years.

 

[plugwash]

I have questioned how this

is permitted but putting cables behind skirting boards is not?

Yeah, those have always struck me as a bit dubious

If something is obviously conduit or trunking, then I think it's fair enough not to regard the cable as concealed, but when the conduit or trunking is deliberately designed not to look like conduit or trunking then this seems far more questionable tome.

 

[DetlefSchmitz]

I have loads of this and similar, and I promise you that nobody is going to decide to put a nail into it.

 

[winston1]

I have questioned how this

is permitted but putting cables behind skirting boards is not?

There are many things that are legal to buy but not legal to use.
e.g. Cars that can exceed 70 MPH.
Power line adapters that cause harmful interference,
Just to mention 2 extremes.

Back to the plastic skirting it is only mains cables that are not permitted. HDMI, CAT5, aerial, satellite are all permitted as far as I know.

 

[DetlefSchmitz]

Back to the plastic skirting it is only mains cables that are not permitted. HDMI, CAT5, aerial, satellite are all permitted as far as I know.

Trunking is a recognised way to distribute wires. There is no distinction made about the kind of wiring it may contain. The only rule is physical separation of different bands.

 

[RF Lighting]

And Banallsheds has said that exact same thing many times on the Screwfix forums. You stole that idea from him.....

I’ve added this to the strange coincidence thread...